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    LL>> Every civilized country in the world, with the exception of the   
    LL>> United States, has a universal health care system.  Thank God this   
    LL>> country is finally moving in the right direction by implementing   
    LL>> President Obama's Affordable Care Act.   
      
    JM> The largest tax increase in American history.   
      
    Oh? And just how much is that tax increase? Last I heard   
    Reagan's tax increase was the largest. OTOH, every decade or so   
    you have a new largest tax increase in history, or even every   
    year if things are going good. Just inflation makes them the   
    biggest. Adjusted for inflation which was the biggest?   
      
    ...   
      
    LL>> A universal, or at least national, health care system.   
      
    JM> Paid for by who?   
      
    The same people now paying for out current outrageously   
    expensive health care system, only with all Americans covered,   
    not millions denied medical care.   
      
    ...   
      
    LL>> The problem of having a healthier population is one I (and most   
    LL>> other Americans) would be more than happy to live with.  :)   
      
    JM> You will not have a healthier population   
      
    It works in every other industrialized country. At the very   
    least, those who get sick without insurance will average   
    healthier.   
      
    LL>> Nobody has the right to play God.   
      
    JM> You keep saying that then you play god and demand I pay for   
    JM> some bum because he drank his way into a comma ( or what   
    JM> ever)   
      
    You keep referring to the uninsured as if they are all, and I   
    repeat, *ALL*, a bunch of drunks or moochers or scum... but I   
    wonder how many of the uninsured work for you. How many working   
    poor have you employed, as day laborers, or as temps? I do not   
    know of even temp office agencies that provide insurance to   
    their workers, or who pay enough for them to buy their own.   
      
    The uninsured are overwhelmingly decent people who work for a   
    living but don't get and can't afford insurance.   
      
      
    JM>>> Who gets to decide what is sufficient?   
      
    LL>> Who gets to play God?   
      
    JM> Who gets to decide what is sufficient?   
      
      
      
    LL>> Certainly not doctors.   
      
    JM>>> It should be the Doctor   
      
    JM> Why not? His work, his education, his office, His office   
    JM> staff, Seems like he would be the one to determine how much   
    JM> it cost and how much he will charge.   
      
      
      
      
    LL>>>> Where did I say that doctors and nurses and other health   
    LL>> professionals   
    LL>>>> should not be given fair compensation for their work?   
      
    JM> You haven't come up with away to pay for the service   
      
      
      
      
    LL>> As I have said previously, taxpayers will be more than happy to foot   
    LL>> the bill.   
      
    JM> Seems like the taxpayers are NOT happy to foot the bill.   
    JM> it's popularity is dropping daily   
      
      
      
    JM>>> And you are the one to tell them, ALL OF THEM just how much money   
    JM>>> they are allowed to make?   
      
    LL>> We (society) do have that right.   
      
    JM> No we do not. At least not directly.   
      
      
      
      
    LL>> was an even *greater* American.  Do you know why?  Earl is the one   
    LL>> who set up the charity hospital system in Louisiana.  This charity   
    LL>> hospital system means that every resident in Louisiana is guaranteed   
    LL>> access to quality health care, even if he/she is poor and has no   
    LL>> money at all to pay for that access.   
      
    JM> Then what the hell are you complaining about. Stay in   
    JM> Louisiana and you're covered.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
    JM>>> Most likely not but if it is my food that I worked for or grew, just   
      
    LL>>>> If a man is starving, and you had food available, would you let him   
    LL>>>> starve?   
      
    JM>>> Most likely not but if it is my food that I worked for or grew, just   
    JM>>> because someone else is hungry does not give a right to my stuff.   
      
    LL>> In time of emergency, your food can be confiscated and redistributed.   
      
    JM> Not with out a fight.   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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