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|    BOB KLAHN to JOHN MASSEY    |
|    Obama Cares    |
|    15 Jul 12 02:16:02    |
       JM>>>> It only free to the mucher class, it's not free to those of        JM>>>> us paying for it.               DD>> It is free to John's "moocher class".               JM> It's not my moocher class, it's AMERICA'S Moocher class               No, John, it's your moocher class. The uninsured are        overwhelmingly not moochers, they are the working poor. They        work, but are still too poor to afford insurance, and their low        paid jobs don't provide insurance. Those are our uninsured, the        moochers are yours.               DD>> They go to the emergency rooms of        DD>> the hospitals and are treated on the public (taxpayer's) nickle then        DD>> disappear into the night. So, I don't understand the Reactionary Right's        DD>> objection to Romney/Obama-care.               JM> No big surprise.               No, it's no big surprise, since the right wing came up with that        analysis before Obama ever saw national office. Perhaps before        he saw any public office.               DD>> With a single payer system working        DD>> people would actually pay less for health care -               JM> You think so? You have no evidence we will pay less.               Every single other national health care system in the world has        that result, single payer, or private insurance centered like        Obamacare.               DD>> since the price of        DD>> health-care would be covered and the taxpayer would actually get        DD>> something for his tax dollars. And if done properly the taxes should not        DD>> go up dramatically.               JM> Define dramatically? Obama Care is full of tax increases.               Put the public option back in. Dramaticall is $1 trillion a year        savings on the US medical care system, which is what we would        save with the most expensive national health care system in the        industrial world.               Dramatic is going from 17% heading to 20% of GDP to 8% to 12% on        the highest end.               DD>> Of curse Massey would lose something to piss & moan        DD>> about.               JM> Not hardly.               JM> But, there are so many other things -- and it sure doesn't        JM> take DD> much to light his fuse. Bv)=               People are dying for lack of health care.               JM> You have no idea what it takes to light my fuse, you have        JM> never seen it lit.               Would someone you care for dying for lack of healh        insurance light it?              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... John Massey is morally obligated to oppose investing in gold.       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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