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   BOB KLAHN to JOHN MASSEY   
   Obama Cares   
   15 Jul 12 02:16:02   
   
    JM>>>> It only free to the mucher class, it's not free to those of   
    JM>>>> us paying for it.   
      
    DD>> It is free to John's "moocher class".   
      
    JM> It's not my moocher class, it's AMERICA'S Moocher class   
      
    No, John, it's your moocher class. The uninsured are   
    overwhelmingly not moochers, they are the working poor. They   
    work, but are still too poor to afford insurance, and their low   
    paid jobs don't provide insurance. Those are our uninsured, the   
    moochers are yours.   
      
    DD>> They go to the emergency rooms of   
    DD>> the hospitals and are treated on the public (taxpayer's) nickle then   
    DD>> disappear into the night. So, I don't understand the Reactionary Right's   
    DD>> objection to Romney/Obama-care.   
      
    JM> No big surprise.   
      
    No, it's no big surprise, since the right wing came up with that   
    analysis before Obama ever saw national office. Perhaps before   
    he saw any public office.   
      
    DD>> With a single payer system working   
    DD>> people would actually pay less for health care -   
      
    JM> You think so?  You have no evidence we will pay less.   
      
    Every single other national health care system in the world has   
    that result, single payer, or private insurance centered like   
    Obamacare.   
      
    DD>> since the price of   
    DD>> health-care would be covered and the taxpayer would actually get   
    DD>> something for his tax dollars. And if done properly the taxes should not   
    DD>> go up dramatically.   
      
    JM> Define dramatically?  Obama Care is full of tax increases.   
      
    Put the public option back in. Dramaticall is $1 trillion a year   
    savings on the US medical care system, which is what we would   
    save with the most expensive national health care system in the   
    industrial world.   
      
    Dramatic is going from 17% heading to 20% of GDP to 8% to 12% on   
    the highest end.   
      
    DD>> Of curse Massey would lose something to piss & moan   
    DD>> about.   
      
    JM>  Not hardly.   
      
    JM>  But, there are so many other things -- and it sure doesn't   
    JM>  take DD> much to light his fuse.   Bv)=   
      
    People are dying for lack of health care.   
      
    JM> You have no idea what it takes to light my fuse, you have   
    JM> never seen it lit.   
      
    Would someone you care for dying for lack of healh   
    insurance light it?   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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