On 7/9/2012 17:54, Lee Lofaso -> BOB KLAHN wrote:   
    LL> Hello Bob,   
      
    JM>>> Then the treaties are wrong.   
      
    JM>>> Medical care is a commodity. You can not receive that care   
    JM>>> unless some one else provides it to you.   
      
    BK>> Oh, is that a meaningful comment?   
      
    LL> Who has the right to play God?  Do health insurance companies   
    LL> have the right to deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions?   
      
   Yes.   Can you buy car insurance after a wreak? Can you buy fire insurance   
   after the house burns down?   
      
      
    LL> What about doctors?   
      
      
    LL> What about doctors?   
      
   What about them?  Are they expected to treat people that can't afford   
   treatments.  If the person that needs treating can't pay who will?   
      
    LL>  Can they do the same?  Pregnancy is a pre-existing   
    LL> condition.   
      
   Not if it's planed. And if it's not planed then any fertile man or woman   
   fooling around should have bought insurance.   
      
      
    LL> Do health insurance companies and doctors have a right to   
    LL> say who lives, and who dies?   
      
   No they have the right to determine if a medical procedure is covered by    
   policy, and if not they have the legal position not to pay for it.   
      
      
      
      
    LL>  If "medical care is a commodity" then   
    LL> life itself is a commodity.  A commodity that can be bought and sold.   
    LL> Or deliberately withheld from those who desperately need it.   
      
   Yeah, life sucks (for some)   
      
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