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   Message 1,845 of 4,105   
   Dave Drum to Lee Lofaso   
   Obama Cares   
   10 Jul 12 06:51:21   
   
   -=> Lee Lofaso wrote to BOB KLAHN <=-   
      
    JM>> It only free to the mucher class, it's not free to those of   
    JM>> us paying for it.   
      
   It is free to John's "moocher class". They go to the emergency rooms of the   
   hospitals and are treated on the public (taxpayer's) nickle then disappear   
   into the night. So, I don't understand the Reactionary Right's objection to   
   Romney/Obama-care. With a single payer system working people would actually   
   pay less for health care - since the price of health-care would be covered and   
   the taxpayer would actually get something for his tax dollars. And if done   
   properly the taxes should not go up dramatically. Of curse Massey would lose   
   something to piss & moan about. But, there are so many other things -- and it   
   sure doesn't take much to light his fuse.   Bv)=   
       
    BK>Which is why the Heritage foundation invented the mandate, the   
    BK>republican party proposed the mandate, and Mitt Romney included   
    BK>the Mandate in Romney care.   
      
    LL> The so-called "mandate" is a conservative idea that moderates   
    LL> and liberals should never have even considered making a part of   
    LL> any health care package.   
      
    BK>Which is why Obama care includes the conservative invented   
    BK>mandate.   
      
    LL> The "mandate", as written in the Affordable Care Act, is a fiction.   
    LL> The negligible fine of $95 for not buying insurance can be ignored,   
    LL> as there is no enforcement mechanism in place.  IOW, the IRS cannot   
    LL> compel anybody to pay the fine (or "tax", as Chief Justice John   
    LL> Roberts called it).   
      
   True Dat. But, still, Roberts managed to surprise me as much as he surprised   
   his right-wing advocates by throwing a monkey wrench into their game.   
       
    LL> What that means is President Barack Obama and his liberal allies   
    LL> are evil.  By including a "mandate" that folks can freely ignore   
    LL> without suffering penalty, insurance companies will be bled dry   
    LL> as they continue to lose customers.  As such, within a period of   
    LL> about ten to fifteen years, this country will go to a single-payer   
    LL> system or medicare-for-all, thus putting an end to the "health care   
    LL> for profit" scam we have today.   
      
   Why should Canuckistan and Jolly Olde have all the good health plans???   
      
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