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   DD>> The problem with self-made men is that they used cheap labour.   
   DD>> Bv)=   
      
    DD>>> The American middle class rose with the rise of unions ... and is   
    DD>>> shrinking as the unions have less and less influence.   
      
    BK>>  A point I recently made. Maybe you will have better luck getting   
    BK>>  them to believe.   
      
    RW>   SUre.  MOst folks who've had to actually work for   
    RW> a living understand waht we're talkign about here.  IN those   
      
    Too many have been sold a bill of goods... or bill of bads...   
      
    RW> who have had to work for a living, and really work but have   
    RW> an anti union bent, imho they've both heard and bought into   
    RW> the right's line and had a bad experience with a union.   
      
    True.   
      
    ...   
      
    BK>>  Long ago I pointed out that, if business treated the workers   
    BK>>  well unions wouldn't exist. Business don't so unions do.   
      
    RW> INdeed, and I"ve pointed out that a union is the perfect   
    RW> partner in business.  If treated with respect the union   
    RW> makes sure that the competent are rewarded and the employer   
    RW> better served.   
      
    AND - Unions make sure the workers are trained. One of the first   
    and most important factors in unions.   
      
    RW> Back when I first joined AFM the work rules   
    RW> were strict, and if you hired a musician "from the hall"   
    RW> who said he could sight read or improvise then you knew   
    RW> he/she could do as advertised.  Rock 'n roll killed unions   
    RW> in the entertainment and media production worlds.   
      
    If you hired and worker with a card you could believe he knew   
    what he was doing.   
      
   DD>> And that is why China-Mart is so terrified that unions will gain a   
   DD>> toehold in their stores. They have been butt-humping their serfs for   
      
    ...   
      
    RW> Some folks say old Sam must be spinning in his hole, but i   
    RW> doubt it.  Sam knew where the game was going.  Chinamart   
    RW> used to advertise American made products too.  ,go figure>   
      
    That was one of the big selling points.   
      
    ...   
      
    RW> plutocrats will have to do is the plutocrats of the FDR era   
    RW> did, start bending a little bit or end up with nothing,   
    RW> maybe not even their lives.  FDR was a plutocrat who   
    RW> understood that his fellow plutocrats weren't going to have   
    RW> squat unless they did something to try to put the masses   
    RW> back to work, and treat them fairly.  Occupy doesn't   
    RW> realize it, but they're about a generation early.   
      
    It's going fast enough I don't think it's a generation early.   
    Lucky if it's 10 years early. See the tagline.   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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