BK>>>> You don't even have to pay dues, you have to pay representation   
    BK>>>>   fees, since by federal laws they have to represent you even if   
    BK>>>>   you don't join.   
      
    JM>>> Shouldn't have too pay anything to any union for any   
    JM>>> reason. Especially to be allowed to work.   
      
    BK>>   That's the free lunch philosophy. The union is responsible for   
    BK>>   the fact that you have insurance, vacations, higher pay, etc.   
      
    JM> No. Bob, it is not. You forget I DO NOT WORK for a Company.   
      
    Actually, what I said is very likely true regardless. You get   
    the spill over from what the Unions have done. That has a long   
    history.   
      
    JM>  I Have insurance BECAUSE I PAY FOR IT.  I take vacations   
      
    Which you likely could not afford if unions hadn't spread   
    insurance across the population.   
      
    JM>  ON MY OWN TIME, not when it fits in with what is   
    JM>  convenient for a company or a union.   
      
    Are you saying you don't have any consideration for your   
    customer's needs, or for market realities? OTOH, you do   
    demonstrate how little you understand unions.   
      
    JM> I have HIGHER PAY   
    JM>  because I can charge more because of the reputation I have   
    JM>  built for quality work.   
      
    And you would have lower pay if the unions hadn't pushed up pay   
    scales in general.   
      
    BK>>   The representation fees are appropriate because the union has to   
    BK>>   represent you. If the law is changed so the union can let them   
    BK>>   hang you and not lift a finger then your point is valid.   
    BK>>   Otherwise, no.   
      
    JM> Representation fees are the same as extortion.   
      
    Are legal fees the same as extortion?   
      
    JM> WTF is a union going to represent me for?  I don't owe the   
    JM> leaches of a union one thin penny.   
      
    Those who work for you would be much better off if they had   
    unions, now wouldn't they?   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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