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|    BOB KLAHN to DAVE DRUM    |
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|    01 Jul 12 16:59:06    |
       ...               DD> If you enjoy an annual vacation, a base 40 hour week, a        DD> less-than-seven-day work week, etc. then you owe the union        DD> movement a debt of gratitude even if you don't directly owe        DD> it any dues.               Which the right wing denies all the way.               JM>> I have no problem paying for my supper.               DD> Probably because a union some where/when negotiated a        DD> living wage.               A point I have made over and over.               DD>> The American middle class rose with the rise of unions ... and is        DD>> shrinking as the unions have less and less influence.               A point I recently made. Maybe you will have better luck getting        them to believe.               DD>> BTW - I do not think, nor claim, that unions are perfect - because it is        DD>> patently obvious, even to a lock-stepping wing-nut reactionary - they        DD>> are not.               Long ago I pointed out that, if business treated the workers        well unions wouldn't exist. Business don't so unions do.               DD>> But, they are better than going back to a master and serf economy ...        DD>> by               JM>> You talk of going back. Dumping the union is a step forward for the        JM>> individual.               DD> And there, my fine right-winger we have a basic disconnect.        DD> Keeping and strengthening the unions (yes, and getting them        DD> off their arses to do what their original purpose was) is        DD> the basis of an improving economy and a growing and healthy        DD> middle class.               Poverty is a growing problem in this country. Income inequality        is becoming set in stone. Without unions that will continue        until the revolution.               DD> Dumping the unions only works if you're already a member of        DD> the 1%. Are you?                            BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Life is fair - it's people who aren't.       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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