On 6/30/2012 19:58, BOB KLAHN -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:   
      
    BK>>> You don't even have to pay dues, you have to pay representation   
    BK>>>   fees, since by federal laws they have to represent you even if   
    BK>>>   you don't join.   
      
    JM>> Shouldn't have too pay anything to any union for any   
    JM>> reason. Especially to be allowed to work.   
      
    BK>   That's the free lunch philosophy. The union is responsible for   
    BK>   the fact that you have insurance, vacations, higher pay, etc.   
      
   No. Bob, it is not. You forget I DO NOT WORK for a Company.  I Have insurance   
   BECAUSE I PAY FOR IT.  I take vacations ON MY OWN TIME, not when it fits in   
   with what is convenient for a company or a union. I have HIGHER PAY because I   
   can charge more because of the reputation I have built for quality work.   
      
      
    BK>   The representation fees are appropriate because the union has to   
    BK>   represent you. If the law is changed so the union can let them   
    BK>   hang you and not lift a finger then your point is valid.   
    BK>   Otherwise, no.   
      
   Representation fees are the same as extortion.   
   WTF is a union going to represent me for?  I don't owe the leaches of a union   
   one thin penny.   
      
   --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.   
    * Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0)