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|    Dave Drum to John Massey    |
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|    29 Jun 12 16:12:28    |
      -=> John Massey wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-               JM>> On 6/26/2012 9:38, BOB KLAHN -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:               BK>> You don't even have to pay dues, you have to pay representation        BK>> fees, since by federal laws they have to represent you even if        BK>> you don't join.               JM>> Shouldn't have too pay anything to any union for any reason.        JM>> Especially to be allowed to work.               DD> I see. You don't believe in paying for your supper, then?               JM> What is that suppose to mean?              If you enjoy an annual vacation, a base 40 hour week, a less-than-seven-day       work week, etc. then you owe the union movement a debt of gratitude even if       you don't directly owe it any dues.                JM> I have no problem paying for my supper.              Probably because a union some where/when negotiated a living wage.                DD> The American middle class rose with the rise of unions ... and is        DD> shrinking as the unions have less and less influence.               DD> BTW - I do not think, nor claim, that unions are perfect - because it is        DD> patently obvious, even to a lock-stepping wing-nut reactionary - they        DD> are not.               DD> But, they are better than going back to a master and serf economy ... by               JM> You talk of going back. Dumping the union is a step forward for the        JM> individual.              And there, my fine right-winger we have a basic disconnect. Keeping and       strengthening the unions (yes, and getting them off their arses to do what       their original purpose was) is the basis of an improving economy and a growing       and healthy middle class.              Dumping the unions only works if you're already a member of the 1%. Are you?               ... The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men        ... prefer not to hear. -- Herbert Agar       --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49        * Origin: Outpost BBS / Johnson City, TN / outpost.slyip.net (1:18/200)    |
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