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|    BOB KLAHN to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN    |
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|    26 Jun 12 10:51:46    |
       AK>>> BTW, do you know the atmosphere of which planet in the        AK>>> Solar system has oxygen tens time more than on Earth? It is        AK>>> Venus. It's true, however, that this oxygen combined with               ...               BK>> Uh... no. Oxygen does exist in space, as stellar-spectrography        BK>> has shown.               AK> Gas density of interstellar "clouds" -- a few molecules per        AK> a cubic inch. Physicists on Earth would be happy to have        AK> such vacuum in their laboratories. Actually space clouds is        AK> a visible nothing, and all this "nothing" consists of 99%        AK> of hydrogen and helium.               Yeah, but a large quantity, over a very very large space, of        oxygen.               AK> When a planet system is forming, initial atmospheres of the        AK> Earth like planets consist of ammonia, water vapor,        AK> nitrogen. Almost no CO2 because there was no free oxygen.               Very likely true... but... since we have never seen a planet        form we can't say for sure. Afterall, planets only form where        there is enough matter for it to accrete, and who knows what        energy is involved. The oxygen has to exist in some compound, so        just what compound does it exist in? We do know that ice meteors        hit the earth's atmosphere every day. That requires oxygen. If I        recall my Astronomy 301 that's where Earth's oxygen is believed        to have come from.               AK> In a few billions of years after that algae in oceans make        AK> a fine trick filling the atmosphere with oxygen. No flora        AK> -- no oxygen in atmosphere.               AK>>> It happened, BTW, not long ago, because the planets of        AK>>> Venus size cannot keep such huge atmospheres for a long        AK>>> time.               BK>> CO2 is heavier than O2. Have you considered that in the        BK>> equations?               AK> It is not very important -- CO2 is heavier just in 1.5        AK> times (than an air), but Venus' atmosphere is 100 times        AK> more dense. The source of C02 on Venus is its volcanoes        AK> which have transferred the rich organic residues into CO2.               Are you sure the energy of the volcanoes is not enough to do the        job without plants?               AK> On the Earth we also have such kind of volcanoes (emitting        AK> CO2) in places where ocean floor submerges under the        AK> continental slope (in Chile, for instance).               I believe even surface volcanoes emit CO2.               AK> [...Save energy! TURN OFF Num Lock!]               I normally do.                             AK> --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds        AK> * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2)              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... trouble with the rat race is, even if you win, you're still a rat. L Tomlin       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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