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|    Lee Lofaso to Richard Webb    |
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|    31 May 12 10:48:00    |
      Hello Richard,              >RW>Yep, see that all over. People are scared of my       >RW>Rottweiler. My Rottweiler is a good dog, but no, if you       >RW>broke in here I couldn't guarantee your safety, or if       >RW>she thought you threatened my lady.              >LL>A responsible dog owner will make sure that no "accidents" happen.       >LL>That is not to say that a burglar is safe from burglarizing a home       >LL>where a dog sets the rules...              RW>That's right, and I don't put her into positions where       RW>accidents will happen. I understand her temperament, she's       RW>loving and friendly, but might not know/understand where       RW>limits are no matter how carefully trained she is. That's       RW>why dog guide users are careful to tell folks that "when in       RW>harness don't pet dog." Dog has to have the rule       RW>reinforced that in harness means working. Play later.              Young and inexperienced dog owners may not be aware of what       it takes to handle a dog. But I take it you are not "young and       inexperienced." :)              >BK>All to many who want to own dogs considered dangerous are *NOT*       >BK>responsible.              >RW>Indeed, and usually they own multiple animals and aren't       >RW>that smart in either training the animals or interacting       >RW>with them.              >LL>The problem is, most folks who own pit bulls (and certain other       >LL>large breeds) do so for illegal activities (dog fighting). The       >LL>vocal cords of these dogs are usually cut so the dogs will not be       >LL>able to make a sound when wounded in a fight. The dogs that are       >LL>hurt too badly are usually either put down or set loose. As well as       >LL>those dogs that are too old to continue fighting.              RW>Indeed this si true, and most of these people aren't real       RW>bright anyway. We adopted our first rottie off the streets       RW>of New Orleans, when her original owner was gunned down she       RW>was given to his cousin who fought pit bulls. When she       RW>wouldn't fight he "gave her her freedom."              Oh, some of those folks are very bright. Bright enough to       know how to make money in a sickening "sport". Also bright       enough to make themselves (and their dogs) scarce when the       law finds out about their nefarious activities.              >LL>That is not to say that pit bulls are "bad" animals. They can be       >LL>excellent pets, as long as they are properly cared for and not       >LL>abused. For example, President Teddy Roosevelt had a pit bull that       >LL>he kept in the White House, the dog being well-mannered around       >LL>guests.              RW>INdeed, I've known some well behaved pitbulls, their owners       RW>are usually people of intelligence who properly trained the       RW>dog.              There is a big difference between *responsible* dog owners       and nincompoops.              >LL>Any dog can be abused and made into a vicious animal, including a       >LL>chihuahua. It is people who raise a dog to be what it is. With       >LL>rare exception, dogs (regardless of breed) that are properly trained       >LL>are not a problem. Each breed does have a different temperament,       >LL>and each dog is unique. But responsible owners of those dogs take       >LL>that into account.              RW>Indeed they do, and it's the irresponsible ones who give       RW>certain breeds undeserved reputations.              For the most part, that is true. However, the only difference       between dogs that most folks are aware of is "big" and "small".       In that sense, all "big" dogs are dangerous, and all "small"       dogs (except for chihuahuas) are nice and friendly.              >RW>My rottie could take your arm off with one bite no doubt.              >LL>Rottweillers are an old breed, used extensively by Romans.       >LL>Just because they have the physical ability to eat you alive does       >LL>not mean they cannot be trained to serve man.              RW>MIne is very good. If Kathy's blood sugar goes wacky in       RW>the middle of the night, she wakes Kathy. if the       RW>electricity goes off and the oxygen concentrator no longer       RW>pushes air into her nose and i need to switch Kathy to a tank,       RW>the Rottweiler wakes me. They were bred to be mountain herding       RW>dogs.              Not all dogs have a good temperament. And not all dogs are       well-trained. And some dogs are just plain stupid. Labradors       often come to mind in the dumb category.              >RW>YEs I play and rough house with her a bit, but I'm also       >RW>very cautious how I play and rough house with her. Just the       >RW>other day I threw away one of those rope pull toys because       >RW>she'd unraveled both ends. Playing "tug o war" with her       >RW>using it would have endangered me. I'll get her another at       >RW>the store, but that one was no longer a safe toy, for       >RW>neither of us.              >LL>It is the ball that dogs go nuts over. Any ball. As long       >LL>as the dog can pick it up with its mouth. Used with discretion, the       >LL>dog can be trained to do *anything* an owner wants. The ball is an       >LL>even better reward than a bone. Really. I kid you not.              RW>Indeed, play is a reward, as well as a way to "blow off       RW>steam" and we use it as such.              Daschshunds can jump high. Very high. One of my friends       had trained his daschshund to jump on command, to go after       a guy's family jewels. I thought he was joking when he       told me about that. Fortunately I was on some steps when       he had the dog prove me wrong, as I escaped becoming a       eunuch by a fraction of an inch.              It was a friendly dog, and I had never had any problem       being around it, the dog even allowing me and others to       pet it. And, aside from cats, seemed to be tame and       non-threatening. But it was trained to obey that one       command...              --Lee                      * SLMR 2.1a * My name is Lee! I know Kung Fu!              --- Maximus 3.01        * Origin: Xaragmata / Adelaide SA telnet://xaragmata.mooo.com (3:800/432)    |
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