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   Message 1,684 of 4,105   
   Lee Lofaso to Richard Webb   
   Helping to alievate over   
   29 May 12 10:14:16   
   
   Hello Richard,   
      
   >MM>I would like to figure out ways to reduce hoarding and backyard   
   >MM>breeding in the puppy mill variety. My idea is to seize the property   
   >MM>such as the home and or the vehicles to help cover the costs of   
   >MM>taking care of these animals.   
      
   RW>   
      
   >RW>we've got quite enough now, but, remember that property   
   >RW>seizures are only for folks involved in so-called crimes of   
   >RW>a consensual nature, such as the guy growing some weed   
   >RW>under grow lights in his basement.  Then we seize property.   
   >RW>Protecting dogs and cats, low on the priority ladder.  Also   
   >RW>remember that property seizure is a weapon we only use   
   >RW>against those whose points of view we don't like.   
      
   >BK>All true. There has been a lot of coverage of abuse and neglect  of   
   >BK>dogs in the local press. The former dog warden was hounded  out of   
   >BK>office by the daily newspaper on a crusade to stop the  killing of   
   >BK>dogs in the pound, esp pit bulls.   
      
   >BK>They got a new dog warden, and things haven't changed much.  Seems   
   >BK>the issue is not as simple as they thought. They got the  rules   
   >BK>restricting ownership of pit bulls repealed, after all pit  bulls   
   >BK>aren't dangerous.   
      
   RW>Yep, see that all over.  pEople are scared of my   
   RW>Rottweiler. My Rottweiler is a good dog, but no, if you   
   RW>broke in here I couldn't guarantee your safety, or if   
   RW>she thought you threatened my lady.   
      
   A responsible dog owner will make sure that no "accidents" happen.   
   That is not to say that a burglar is safe from burglarizing a home   
   where a dog sets the rules...   
      
   RW>   
      
   >BK>All to many who want to own dogs considered dangerous are *NOT*   
   >BK>responsible.   
      
   RW>Indeed, and usually they own multiple animals and aren't   
   RW>that smart in either training the animals or interacting   
   RW>with them.   
      
   The problem is, most folks who own pit bulls (and certain other large   
   breeds) do so for illegal activities (dog fighting).  The vocal cords of   
   these dogs are usually cut so the dogs will not be able to make a sound   
   when wounded in a fight.  The dogs that are hurt too badly are usually   
   either put down or set loose.  As well as those dogs that are too old to   
   continue fighting.   
      
   That is not to say that pit bulls are "bad" animals.  They can be   
   excellent pets, as long as they are properly cared for and not abused.   
   For example, President Teddy Roosevelt had a pit bull that he kept in   
   the White House, the dog being well-mannered around guests.   
      
   Any dog can be abused and made into a vicious animal, including   
   a chihuahua.  It is people who raise a dog to be what it is.  With   
   rare exception, dogs (regardless of breed) that are properly trained   
   are not a problem.  Each breed does have a different temperament,   
   and each dog is unique.  But responsible owners of those dogs take   
   that into account.   
      
   RW>My rottie could take your arm off with one bite no doubt.   
      
   Rottweillers are an old breed, used extensively by Romans.   
   Just because they have the physical ability to eat you alive   
   does not mean they cannot be trained to serve man.   
      
   RW>YEs I play and rough house with her a bit, but I'm also   
   RW>very cautious how I play and rough house with her.  Just the   
   RW>other day I threw away one of those rope pull toys because   
   RW>she'd unraveled both ends.  Playing "tug o war" with her   
   RW>using it would have endangered me.  I'll get her another at   
   RW>the store, but that one was no longer a safe toy, for   
   RW>neither of us.   
      
   It is the ball that dogs go nuts over.  Any ball.  As long   
   as the dog can pick it up with its mouth.  Used with discretion,   
   the dog can be trained to do *anything* an owner wants.  The   
   ball is an even better reward than a bone.  Really.  I kid you   
   not.   
      
   --Lee   
      
      
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