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   BOB KLAHN to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN   
   Writing about the first amendment   
   05 Apr 12 10:43:06   
   
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    AK>>> It is even impossibe to imagine that a modern country in this   
    AK>>> world (except Israel) is capable to proclaim that a particular   
    AK>>> nationality is the main nationality in the country.   
      
    AK>    
    BK>> Japan can do it quite well, as they are a very homogeneous country.   
    BK>> Their variations are mainly the Caucasian Ainu who have lived there   
    BK>> for centuries if not millenia, Koreans who moved to Japan or were   
    BK>> moved to Japan when Japan ruled Korea, and European whites who have   
    BK>> moved there in recent years. All small numbers.   
      
    AK> But there was time when Japan expanded their homogeneous   
    AK> country to the areas inhabited by other nations. They   
    AK> occupied China, Korea. You probably remember a movie with   
    AK> Bruce Lee where Chinese people were not allowed to the   
    AK> city's park because the Chinese were considered a second   
    AK> grade people.   
      
    Yes, I remember that movie. And you are right about that.   
      
    ...   
      
    AK> time. Such a state becomes an aggressor because the people   
    AK> of such a country consider themselves higher than other   
    AK> people. Woe to the world peace if such a nation is armed   
    AK> from top to toe.   
      
    All true.   
      
    AK>>> is the main nationality in the country. Every nationality must   
    AK>>> have equal rights. We live in the 21-st century. The Scotch are   
    AK>>> going to proclaim their independence, but surely they will not   
    AK>>> proclime their nation dominant, and Englishmen as a second grade   
    AK>>> nation, incapacitated from voting.   
      
    BK>> They had the same fight in Canada, and Ireland.   
      
    AK> Well, anyway, we must not IMHO consider old bloody crimes   
    AK> as a justification for modern wars and discrimination.   
      
    I said the same thing about the Kosovo war. Right wingers   
    opposed me on that.   
      
    AK>    
    AK>>> is in Israel. People who populate the territory can be called   
    AK>>> Israeli, but they are Jews, Arabs, etc.   
    BK>> Actually, they are Jews, Muslims and Christians mostly. The Jews   
    BK>> were mostly Arabs until recently in historical terms. Same for   
    BK>> Christians. After all, that is where Christianity began, and it was   
    BK>> not outsiders moving in who started it, but locals. Probably the   
    BK>> Arabs should start advertising the fact that Jesus was not only a   
    BK>> Jew, but he was also an Arab.   
      
    AK> And "God chosen people" term must stop circulate. Because   
    AK> it is impossible to prove who are Jews - "God chosen   
    AK> people" or "God cursed people." The second variant probably   
    AK> has even stronger argumentation. That's why it is necessary   
    AK> to built a country where religion is separated from state.   
    AK> Jews believe that God helps them now, but actually they are   
    AK> helped but aggression, money, lawlessness; and all this has   
    AK> taken a form of their new god.   
      
    Agreed. See the tagline.   
      
    AK> [...The most rediculous way to get in hell -  to stumble   
    AK> against the paradise   
    AK> threshold and say "Fu%k!!!"]   
      
    hehehe...   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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