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|    Lee Lofaso to BOB KLAHN    |
|    Writing about the first amendment    |
|    22 Mar 12 13:43:21    |
      Hello Bob,               LL>> Every square inch of habitable lands have been contested by        LL>> man. Not just land in Africa and the Middle East. Even        LL>> inhabitable lands have been contested. For a recent        LL>> example, the Falkland Islands. Nobody really cared about        LL>> the few sheepherders who were living on the main islands.        LL>> That war was really about oil.              BK>No, it really wasn't. They can't find any significant oil in       BK>that area last I heard.              The area encompassed the entire South Atlantic, not just the small       islands themselves. Oil companies have long been aware of the oil       deposits, but the cost of drilling was too prohibitive to make it       economically viable. But today's technologies do make it profitable.              BK>It was about the Argentine Generals took over the government and       BK>it was going very badly. So they decided to distract the people       BK>and become popular by taking the islands away from the mighty       BK>British.              A war is one way of getting a people for forget about economic       troubles. The generals probably thought they could get a negotiated       settlement with the UK, and probably would have had Maggie Thatcher       not been the PM. Do note that the US remained "neutral" throughout       the conflict, although the Argentines tried mightily to get US       President Ronald Reagan to invoke the Monroe Doctrine on their       behalf.              BK>Unfortunately for the generals, when you lose the war your       BK>popularity tends to drop precipitously.              It was the women. Women who had lost their sons. And daughters.       And those women blamed the generals. The women blamed the generals       for having lost their sons and daughters. And you know as well as       I do that women are always right.               LL>> The United Nations voted to create *two* Palestinian states        LL>> - one for the Jews, and one for the Arabs. Both sides              BK>Which they never had the authority to do in the first place.              What authority did the Turks have to occupy Palestine? What authority       did the British have to occupy Palestine? What authority does any       foreign power have to occupy Palestine? Palestine is for Palestinians.       Regardless of what religion those Palestinians might be.               LL>> rejected the plan, but the Jews gladly took what they could        LL>> get. Go ahead. Look at the original maps. The first war        LL>> between the Arabs and the Jews was fought on Arab lands.        LL>> The second war between the Arabs and the Jews was fought on        LL>> Arab lands. Every war fought between the Arabs and the        LL>> Jews has been fought on Arab lands.              BK>I hadn't thought of that aspect of it. Hmmm...              Start thinking, man! |
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