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   FRANK SCHEIDT to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN   
   Re: Writing about the first amendment   
   17 Mar 12 15:27:42   
   
   -> Hi, FRANK SCHEIDT! How are you?   
   -> on Wednesday, 14 of March, I read your message to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN   
   -> about "Re: Writing about the first amendment"   
   ->    
   ->  ak>>>> Not a single nation on this planet has the right to built a   
   ->  ak>>>> state for one nation only, on the territory populated by other   
   ->  ak>>>> nations.   
   ->  FS>>> In nation-building "fairness" is seldom a criterion!   
   ->  ak>> If you look at the world you can see that now all normal people   
   ->  ak>> think that a nationalistic state is grim shade of the Hitler   
   ->  ak>> state. There is no nationalistic state on this planet accept   
   ->  ak>> Israel.   
   ->    
   ->  FS> Deep-down every state, if it wants to survive, is nationalistic.   
   ->  FS> In fact here's the definition of "nationalism":   
   ->  FS> 1. Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.   
   ->    
   -> It is even impossibe to imagine that a modern country in this world   
   -> (except Israel) is capable to proclaim that a particular nationality   
   -> is the main nationality in the country. Every nationality must have   
   -> equal rights. We live in the 21-st century. The Scotch are going to   
   -> proclaim their independence, but surely they will not proclime their   
   -> nation dominant, and Englishmen as a second grade nation,   
   -> incapacitated from voting.   
      
   You made an unfortunate choice when you selected Scotland to support your   
   thesis!  The Scots would gladly dominate the English if they could ...   
      
   ->    
   ->  FS> 2. The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently   
   ->  FS> rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than   
   ->  FS> international goals.   
   ->  FS> 3. Aspirations for national independence in a country under   
   ->  FS> foreign domination.   
   ->    
   -> As an example we can take India and its long fight for independence.   
   -> But again - India consists of many nationalities. An Indian is a   
   -> rather territorial term. So is in Israel. People who populate the   
   -> territory can be called Israeli, but they are Jews, Arabs, etc.   
   ->    
   "Nationalism" has *nothing* to do with the *nationalities* of the nation's   
   population.  A nationalist Indian can be one of any of several possible   
   groups, Hindu, Sikh, etc.   
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