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|    Richard Webb to Dave Drum    |
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|    17 Mar 12 14:35:10    |
      Hi Dave,              On Sat 2012-Mar-17 05:33, Dave Drum (1:18/200) wrote to Richard Webb:               RW> YEp, but note Matt Taibbi's piece in Rolling stonefor February 16 about        RW> Romney's meltdown in South Carolina. HE stated in that        RW> column that Paul was the only one who even looked like he        RW> might hold his own in a head to head against Obama. The        RW> wack jobs the Republicans are putting up (political insiders all) don't        RW> do nearly as well.              I neglected to put the magazine name in originally.       Corrected that error in case anybody's interested.               RW> NOt that i"m a fan, but one wonders if they aren't listening to some of        RW> the real concerns voiced by all the folks who join the tea party or        RW> occupy. Don't they (the leadership of the Republican party) grasp this        RW> at all?              DD> Well, the tea baggers have been co-opted by the oligarchs as window       DD> dressing for their own feather the nest agendas. As for the "Occupy"       DD> movement - the 1% seem to think that if they ignore it and chip away       DD> at the edges that it will fade away. They may be right. It worked       DD> for Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, didn't it??? Bv)=              That's as I see it, but I'd really think if Iwere in a       position of leadership in the Republican party I'd be       thinking about the real reason that the oligarchs have been       able to coopt such a movement as the tea party, or create       such a smoke and mirrors thing in teh first place for JOe       sixpack to buy into. Average folks are very unhappy with       what's happening in Washington and they're just not grasping this. I know a       hell of a lot of people under 50 who are       totally disengaged from this process, because they feel it       can make no positive difference in their lives. As soon as       they're too old to be considered good cannon fodder they're       just given the one finger salute. But, you have a lot of       younger folks within the occupy movement, and a lot of       oldsters in the tea party thing both saying basically teh       same thing to the folks insdie the beltway which is       "straighten this crap up!" Some I know who really went       beating on doors and pushing for Obama in '08 are very       disillusioned at this point, Mr. Hope and change hasn't       given them much change they could believe in, or even change from their dollar.              DD> They are out of touch or they wouldn't be (current) Repuglicans.               YEah I know, but that's waht I really don't understand. Has the current       Republican party become so blind to this that       they've lost touch with what it really meant to be a       conservative in the days of Goldwater et al? Tehy really       don't grasp that there's a vast pool of dissatisfied       citizens out there who don't see the point in the bottomless bailout pit for       Wall street crooks and fat cats gaming the       system at their expense. A viable third party which       actually discussed fixing essential infrastructure and       putting people back to work could really go somewhere. Many of us are qutie       uncomfortable with both major parties these       days. I'll probably vote major party this time, while I       hold my nose.              Regards,        Richard       ---        * Origin: (1:116/901)    |
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