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   BOB KLAHN to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN   
   Writing about the first amendment   
   15 Mar 12 04:26:40   
   
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    FS>> Deep-down every state, if it wants to survive, is nationalistic.   
    FS>> In fact here's the definition of "nationalism":   
    FS>> 1. Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.   
      
    AK> It is even impossibe to imagine that a modern country in   
    AK> this world (except Israel) is capable to proclaim that a   
    AK> particular nationality is the main nationality in the   
    AK> country.   
      
    Actually, by nationality they usually can, but they limit their   
    future if they do. Few European countries had much range of   
    ethnicity until recently. However, you are right in that there   
    is almost always guite a bit of overlap at the borders, and old   
    groupings within a nation of any size.   
      
    Japan can do it quite well, as they are a very homogeneous   
    country. Their variations are mainly the Caucasian Ainu who have   
    lived there for centuries if not millenia, Koreans who moved to   
    Japan or were moved to Japan when Japan ruled Korea, and   
    European whites who have moved there in recent years. All small   
    numbers.   
      
    AK> is the main nationality in the country. Every nationality   
    AK> must have equal rights. We live in the 21-st century. The   
    AK> Scotch are going to proclaim their independence, but surely   
    AK> they will not proclime their nation dominant, and   
    AK> Englishmen as a second grade nation, incapacitated from   
    AK> voting.   
      
    They had the same fight in Canada, and Ireland.   
      
    AK> As an example we can take India and its long fight for   
    AK> independence. But again - India consists of many   
    AK> nationalities. An Indian is a rather territorial term. So   
      
    True. A very wide range.   
      
    AK> is in Israel. People who populate the territory can be   
    AK> called Israeli, but they are Jews, Arabs, etc.   
      
    Actually, they are Jews, Muslims and Christians mostly. The Jews   
    were mostly Arabs until recently in historical terms. Same for   
    Christians.   
      
    After all, that is where Christianity began, and it was not   
    outsiders moving in who started it, but locals. Probably the   
    Arabs should start advertising the fact that Jesus was not only   
    a Jew, but he was also an Arab.   
      
      
      
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