Hi, Lee Lofaso! How are you?   
   on Tuesday, 13 of March, I read your message to alexander koryagin   
   about "Writing about the first amendment"   
      
    MM>>> I think the leader of Iran wanted to move the Jews in   
    MM>>> Isreael/Palestine to North Dakota.   
      
    ak>> Probably I should have write "unsettled" instead of   
    ak>> "inhabitable." But all habitable territories are already   
    ak>> settled. So "inhabitable" is correct anyway.   
      
    LL> Zionism comes in two versions. One version was that a Zionist   
    LL> state could be created anywhere (the original idea being for Jews   
    LL> to set up a Jewish state in present-day Uganda). The other   
    LL> version was that a Jewish state should be created in the land of   
    LL> Palestine, which iw the version that was eventually   
    LL> chosen/adopted. However, the version that exists today is   
    LL> incomplete. The idea is for a Jewish state to stretch from the   
    LL> Mediterranean Sea to the Tigris/Euphrates (modern-day Iraq).   
      
   The matter is not in a Jewish state. The matter is how to do it without   
   infringing rights of millions other people and without the plan that   
   is based on this infringement from the beginning. In addition, as I had   
   already said, Arabs consider themselves as a great single nation, and it   
   must be taken into account when you going to beat a small part of this   
   nation. What do you need more - the possibility of peaceful life or a   
   constant state of war?   
      
      
    ak>> Jews clearly should been created a one more civilized democratic   
    ak>> state that could have been suitable for all nations, Arabs   
    ak>> included.   
      
    LL> The United Nations voted to create *two* Palestinian states - one   
    LL> for the Jews, and one for the Arabs. Both sides rejected the   
    LL> plan, but the Jews gladly took what they could get. Go ahead.   
    LL> Look at the original maps. The first war between the Arabs and   
    LL> the Jews was fought on Arab lands. The second war between the   
    LL> Arabs and the Jews was fought on Arab lands. Every war fought   
    LL> between the Arabs and the Jews has been fought on Arab lands.   
      
    LL> The Iranian president is a blustering fool who has absolutely no   
    LL> intention of starting another war between the Arabs and the Jews.   
    LL> Besides, he is Persian, not Arab. Today there is much talk about   
    LL> war. Not by the Iranian president or the mullahs running that   
    LL> country, but by the Israeli prime minister and his war cabinet.   
      
   Paranoia is a serious illness. And is dangerous one if top guns of   
   the state of Israel are ill with it.   
      
    LL> What will happen if Israel and/or the US bombs Iranian nuclear   
    LL> facilities? Iranians will defend their homeland, despite their   
    LL> president being unpopular. Not only that, but Arabs around the   
    LL> world will also be up in arms. Along with Afghans, who already   
    LL> want to behead as many Americans (and other infidels) as they can   
    LL> find.   
      
   Not mentioning that bombardment of atomic facilities is an outrageous   
   terrorism and a crime, that can easily course a great ecological   
   disaster, it is a demonstration of the sick, paranoiac logic - you must   
   kill a man because he can obtain weapon and kill you, and in addition   
   he call you lawless creature. But how in this case humankind has lived   
   until now?   
      
   Paradoxically it proves a well-known truth - when two foes are armed   
   there will be a strained peace; but if weapon was obtained only by one of   
   them - a war is very likely. Israel confirms this truth once again.   
      
    LL> Israel is more of a theocracy than a democracy. Kind of like a   
    LL> Jewish version of Iran.  Only a tad bit different. Jews have   
    LL> rights, non-Jews do not. Jews are citizens. Arabs who are   
    LL> Israelis are second-rate citizens, not having the same rights as   
    LL> Jews.   
      
   It is an ugly truth. And Iran right in many ways speaking of Israel   
   a lawless state founded on a racist, lawless fundament.   
      
    LL> What you have in Israel are two peoples and three religions.   
    LL> Trying to get two peoples who hate each others guts to work   
    LL> together is hard enough.   
      
   Everybody knows that racist essence of Israel is the main obstacle on   
   the path to peace. If Israel were not a racist state the local Arabs   
   would be even proud of the fact that they live in rich and powerful   
   country. All people want live well.   
      
   [...Don't look inside the cake you are eating]   
   Bye Lee!   
   Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91   
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