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   John Massey to BOB KLAHN   
   Can You Say It?   
   12 Mar 12 07:17:33   
   
   On 3/12/2012 3:30, BOB KLAHN -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:   
      
    LL>>>>> How did Mitt Romney get so fabulously wealthy?   
      
    BK>>>>> He got rich by screwing working people.   
      
    JM>>>> How did he screw working people?   
      
    LL>>> Mitt Romney claims to be a businessman.   
    LL>>> A business is in business to make a profit.   
    LL>>> In order to maximize profits, a business   
    LL>>> must shed its dead weight. And that means   
    LL>>> firing people (employees).   
      
    JM>> Employers should fire "dead weight" or unproductive   
    JM>> employes   
      
    BK> Competent employers don't have many unproductive employees.   
      
   So they should fire the ones they do.   
      
      
      
    LL>>> Outsourcing jobs   
    LL>>> to where cheap labor can be found, such as   
    LL>>> in Veitnam, Mongolia, etc.   
      
    JM>> Why would a manufacturer pay 10 times the cost for an   
    JM>> American wigdet when they can get it cheaper?   
      
    BK> Why should a manufacturer be allowed to import something that   
    BK> could be made here, without having taxes levied to balance out   
    BK> the slave labor wages of China?   
      
   Because lower cost would make the widget more widely available to more   
   people.   
      
      
    LL>>> As governor of Massachusetts, he screwed   
    LL>>> working people in other ways. Such as state   
    LL>>> employees. Rather than have the state run   
    LL>>> the prisons and everything else, Romney chose   
    LL>>> to privatize as much as he could, thus giving   
    LL>>> pink slips to many folks in those areas.   
      
    JM>> Those people could not work for the private contractor?   
      
    BK> Private contractors tend to reduce the workforce to below   
    BK> justifiable minimums. That and cut wages and benefits. Any job   
    BK> worth doing is worth a living wage.   
      
   Not ALL jobs are worth paying a "living wage" even if you could tell everyone   
   what that was.   
    Is a "living wage" the same in NYC as in Melrose Florida or Lincoln Nebraska?   
   Should a teenager baby sitting get a "living wage?"  How about a teenager   
   bagging groceries?   
      
      
    BK> The state has no right to authorize private individuals to hold   
    BK> others prisoner. That is a power that should only be exercised   
    BK> by the state, after due process of law.   
      
    LL>>> Private companies maximize their profits by   
    LL>>> paying low wages, cutting the number of   
    LL>>> employees, lower quality, fewer regulations,   
    LL>>> etc.   
      
    JM>> To bad you believe the BS you have been told.   
      
    BK> Too bad what he said is true.   
      
   Not always.   
      
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