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   alexander koryagin to FRANK SCHEIDT   
   Re: Writing about the first amendment   
   07 Mar 12 15:45:50   
   
   Hi, FRANK SCHEIDT! How are you?   
   on Tuesday, 06 of March, I read your message to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN   
   about "Re: Writing about the first amendment"   
      
    FS>>>>>>> (Ask the American Indians about their history.) Since Israel   
    FS>>>>>>> has now occupied that land for six decades, they now have as   
    FS>>>>>>> much right to it as do the Palestinians.   
    ak>>>>>> The core of the problem is that Palestinians is not a small   
    ak>>>>>> ethnic group whose rights can be violated with impunity. All   
    ak>>>>>> the Arabs actually is one nation, with one language   
      
    FS>>>>> Actually the Arabian nations not only have more than one   
    FS>>>>> dialect of Arabic, some cannot even understand the other.   
    FS>>>>> Example, Egyptian Arabic is said to be completely   
    FS>>>>> unintelligible to Iraqi Arabic speakers. And Iran, of course,   
    FS>>>>> isn't even an Arabian nation; they speak Farsi. However, they   
    FS>>>>> all hate Israel with about the same intensity.   
      
    ak>>>> Well, probably Israelis would understand Palestinians better if   
    ak>>>> they had put themselves in their boots after the WW2. What had   
    ak>>>> happened then?   
      
    FS>>> True enough -- but equally true for all nations, if they would   
    FS>>> put themselves in the shoes of other nations.   
      
    ak>> If Jews had wanted to built a Jewish religious state in an   
    ak>> inhabitable area it would probably have been all right. No local   
    ak>> people, no problem. There would not have been any racial and   
    ak>> religious issues and violations. But millions of Arabs had   
    ak>> already lived at that land and they had been guilty of nothing.   
    ak>> Did Jews have right to built a state for Jews? They could make a   
    ak>> democratic state for all the people living there. In all the   
    ak>> civilized countries religion is separated from state, and it   
    ak>> helps solve a big host of problems.   
      
    FS> And where would you have the Jews go to find an "inhabitable" area   
    FS> with no people already living there -- Antarctica??   
      
   Not a single nation on this planet has the right to built a state for one   
   nation only, on the territory populated by other nations. Such a weird   
   thing can be probably possible only in an unsettled area. But even in this   
   case the idea remains weird and racist. IMHO, Jews had to built a state   
   that would resemble all the civilized countries. The slogan "Israel for   
   Jews" sounds perfectly like Nazy's "Germany for Germans."   
      
   [...]   
   Bye FRANK!   
   Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91   
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