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   alexander koryagin to FRANK SCHEIDT   
   Re: Writing about the first amendment   
   05 Mar 12 16:12:53   
   
   Hi, FRANK SCHEIDT! How are you?   
   on Monday, 05 of March, I read your message to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN   
   about "Re: Writing about the first amendment"   
      
    FS>>>>> (Ask the American Indians about their history.) Since Israel   
    FS>>>>> has now occupied that land for six decades, they now have as   
    FS>>>>> much right to it as do the Palestinians.   
    ak>>>> The core of the problem is that Palestinians is not a small   
    ak>>>> ethnic group whose rights can be violated with impunity. All   
    ak>>>> the Arabs actually is one nation, with one language   
      
    FS>>> Actually the Arabian nations not only have more than one dialect   
    FS>>> of Arabic, some cannot even understand the other. Example,   
    FS>>> Egyptian Arabic is said to be completely unintelligible to Iraqi   
    FS>>> Arabic speakers. And Iran, of course, isn't even an Arabian   
    FS>>> nation; they speak Farsi. However, they all hate Israel with   
    FS>>> about the same intensity.   
      
    ak>> Well, probably Israelis would understand Palestinians better if   
    ak>> they had put themselves in their boots after the WW2. What had   
    ak>> happened then?   
      
    FS> True enough -- but equally true for all nations, if they would put   
    FS> themselves in the shoes of other nations.   
      
   If Jews had wanted to built a Jewish religious state in an inhabitable   
   area it would probably have been all right. No local people, no   
   problem. There would not have been any racial and religious issues and   
   violations. But millions of Arabs had already lived at that land and   
   they had been guilty of nothing. Did Jews have right to built a state   
   for Jews? They could make a democratic state for all the people living   
   there. In all the civilized countries religion is separated from state,   
   and it helps solve a big host of problems.   
      
   Jew could have freely practiced their religion and millions of Arabs   
   would not have felt themselves inferior. The US lives like that. The   
   whole civilized world lives like that. We can compare Jewish religious   
   state only with a Taliban state in Afghanistan.   
      
   Millions of Arabs lost their houses and land.... In short only a blind   
   person can say that Arabs started Middle Wars. No. It was Israel who   
   from the scratch began act in such a way that conflict became   
   inevitable.   
      
      
    ak>> Even now the main thesis of Israelis is that Israel must be a   
    ak>> Jewish state. It is a racist position, and it is and it was   
    ak>> unacceptable to all the people who live or lived in Palestine,   
    ak>> except Jews of course.   
      
    ak>> So, the way the Jewish people started to build their state was   
    ak>> objectionable from the scratch, and it was clear that the process   
    ak>> was doomed to become a pretext for a wars. Besides it is a   
    ak>> pretext for a war even now. Because "Jewish state" is the core   
    ak>> thesis Palestinians have been demanding to accept. Naturally they   
    ak>> don't want to do it. And with every year passing hatred against   
    ak>> Jews are steadily increasing.   
      
   (BTW: I've made a very funny error, must be: "Palestinians have been   
   demanded" ;-))   
      
    ak>> The way out is clear. In the present world there must not be   
    ak>> countries where one nation is more superior than another. When   
    ak>> this ugly item be resolve the situation in Palestine would be   
    ak>> resolved much easier.   
      
    FS> I think you propose an idealistic solution which will never   
    FS> develop.   
      
   Probably aliens are needed to solve this conflict, like NATO did in   
   Libya. Probably they could make an isolated island in the Pacific for   
   the final solution. ;=)   
      
   [...Even a neutron has its antiparticle]   
   Bye FRANK!   
   Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91   
   fido7.debate 2012   
      
      
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