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   Richard Webb to BOB BREED   
   the draft, was Can you sa   
   28 Feb 12 21:25:14   
   
   Hi again Bob,   
      
   On Tue 2012-Feb-28 09:38, BOB BREED (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:   
      
      
      
    RW> Yep, my point exactly, no opt out available is the way I   
    RW> look at it.  There is no opt out, the military has first   
    RW> call on your body and soul when you turn 18 or get that hs   
    RW> diploma.   
      
   BB> I can't buy the plan as long as it has a 'buy out' clause.  (But   
   BB> maybe I'm not thinking what you mean by that - to me it was what   
   BB> happened in VN, the rich got into all kinds of deferments, college -   
   BB> and gawd knows what else.)  However I can buy the truly disabled   
   BB> being exempt - a point you don't. :)    
      
   YEp, no buyouts, you serve, no matter who you are, no matter the station of   
   your parents, rich or poor, disabled or not.   
   YOu will serve. But then there's ...   
      
   BB> And we're both ignoring the fact that the military is cutting back -   
   BB> even to the point of losing key people - people who are very good at   
   BB> their job but can't advance so it's up or out.   
      
   Yep, that's a real consideration.  The peacetime military   
   still has a role though, the boots on the ground for foreign aid projects   
   where we have to provide training and support,   
   as well as delivering the goods we provide as part of that   
   foreign aid.  Imho military service teaches some valuable   
   skills, whether you end up a mechanic, a communications   
   person, etc.  It's just a smarter way to go imho.  Every   
   citizen to get the rights of citizen at age 18 or graduation from hs will show   
   up and do his/her hitch.  I first read   
   that about a decade ago and I've really liked the idea every since.  The   
   skills you learn help your neighborhood survive   
   a disaster, make your neighborhood safer, etc.   
      
    BB> Got my amateur at 16, next year got 2nd telegraph, then about 2   
    BB> years later went for 2nd phone.  As you said, the 2nd telegraph had   
    BB> the 20wpm thing but I never really had a problem with the code.   
      
    RW> YEp, was thinking it was 1st telegraph needed the 20 wpm.  I did the   
    RW> phone thing with the broadcast endorsement.   
      
   BB> Never got the broadcast thing.  All we needed was the basic 2nd   
   BB> class to do mobile radio and the occasional point to point microwave   
   BB> shot.      
      
   YEp, you could do a lot with the 2nd in broadcasting too,   
   but if you  had the 1st with the broadcast endorsement it   
   looked good to employers.   
      
      
    BB> Amateur still valid though but not using it and haven't for some   
    BB> years.   Keep the code speed up though, but that's mostly via the   
    BB> MP3 files from the ARRL site.  :)   
      
    RW> YEah but you might decide some day to throw up a wire and   
    RW> get on the air.  YOu might enjoy groups like fists and the   
    RW> like.  Also traffic handling.   
      
   BB>     
   BB> Not likely, but now and again I fire up my Kenwood and search the   
   BB> ham bands.  Man, what the heck is it with all these new calls? When   
   BB> did these C6xxx guys come into play?  Us old timers still recall   
   BB> when the newbies had K6, and that was like being branded.  :)   
      
   Eh?  c6 is the Bahamas iirc.  Still valid is A k n or w for   
   U.S. call signs.  I bought this call cause I didn't want one of the a series 2   
   by 2 extra calls, but I wanted to lose my   
   2 x 3 0 land call sign for something that was more rhythmic   
   with the code and easier phonetically since I run a lot of   
   phone nets, so I bought nf5b under the vanity program.   
   Gotta renew it later this year.   
      
   BB> Talk about being out of touch.  :)   
      
   YEah it's a different world these days.  When I heard an   
   extra class the other day asking how to figure the length of a dipole, and   
   another saying he didn't know how to tune up   
   his new tube type linear amplifier I was rolling on the   
   floor making strange noises.   
      
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
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