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   BOB BREED to FRANK SCHEIDT   
   Re: Can You Say It?   
   27 Feb 12 08:57:00   
   
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    ->  FS> civil war.  And I think the US should avoid all civil wars.  Let   
    FS> the   
    ->  FS> "natives" fight it out.   
    ->   
    -> I'd say avoid both civil and religious wars.  But seems we never learn.   
      
    FS> True, but we must remain militarily strong -- for defense purposes   
    FS> only, since a lot of nations would like to attack us if they could be   
    FS> assured of victory.  And a weak USA might convince them of that.   
      
   But we're fighting in this little shit pot counties that don't either a Navy or   
   an Aiforce.  Granted they can do some limited damage via terrorist stuff, but   
   to 'attack' you need more than just a few guys running around planting bombs.    
   (Nukes might change that, but in that case OUR strong military won't do the job   
   either.)   
      
    ...   
      
    ->   
    ->  FS> After the attack on Pearl Harbor the nation developed intense   
    ->  FS> patriotism in most people -- and it lasted until the war ended, not   
    ->  FS> like the brief patriotic flurry following 9/11.  Even *I* was   
    FS> jazzed-up   
    ->  FS> with patriotism, so I volunteered to enter the Army.   
    ->   
    -> You, and many others.   
      
    FS> Yeah, well I couldn't defeat both the Nazis and Japs *alone*.  Be   
    FS> reasonable.   
      
   Yeah, it took more than one man, even a great one. :)   
      
   ...   
    ->   
    ->  FS> The Korean "war", sometimes called "The Forgotten 'war'", was never   
    ->  FS> popular with the majority of the public, probably because "winning"   
    FS> was   
    ->  FS> not seen as absolutely critical as winning WWII WAS!   
    ->   
    -> Yup, war was to stop 'the spread of communism.'  Yet after 3 years of   
    FS> fighting   
    -> all we did was go back our side of the line.  I'll concede we might have   
    -> stopped it from spreading south, but we failed the next time with VN,   
    FS> and today   
    -> N Korea is still a pain in our ass.   
      
    FS> Amazing, isn't it.  Now with "Little Kim" running the North Korean show   
    FS> who knows wot will turn up next??   
      
   But again a country with limited military might - an army, but limited Navy and   
   Airpower, both needed to attack our shores.   
      
    ->  -> Then the VN thing, and I'm at a loss to figure out just what   
    FS> happened   
    ->  FS> there.   
    ->   
    ->  FS> I think it's known now that the North Vietnamese "navy" did NOT   
    ->  FS> actually attack us as LBJ had falsely claimed.   
    ->   
    -> Oh yeah, not our finest hour.   
      
    FS> But don't blame "us"; blame the government officials who got us *in*   
    FS> that mess!   
      
   But we are the gov't.  :)   
      
      
       
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