-> -=> FRANK SCHEIDT wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-   
   ->    
   ->  ->  FS> The Founding Fathers ('scuse the non-politically-correct term)   
   did   
   ->  ->  FS> not   
   ->    
   ->  -> What's non-politically correct about "Founding Fathers"? Those   
   mothers   
   ->  -> were all men. Even if, statistically, one or more of them might have   
   ->  -> been queer.   
   ->    
   ->  FS> I've never read that any of the Founding Fathers were queer, but   
   that's   
   ->  FS> beside the point.   
   ->    
   -> According to Kinsey 1 out of every 10 men are gay. keep in mind, that   
   this   
   -> ratio is not a hard fact because not all men are "out". And in the time   
   of the   
   -> founding of this experiment any fruits would have been tightly closeted   
   ... for   
   -> their very lives.   
      
   That's why they are often referred to as, "The Good Old Days"!!   
        
   ->  FS> Political Correctness is involved when one uses   
   ->  FS> "Fathers" instead of the Politically Correct "Founders" ... or, in   
   ->  FS> extreme cases to appease the wimmin libbers:  "Mothers" ... of   
   course   
   ->  FS> that term enters another realm, that involving the expression   
   ->  FS> "Motherfornicators" or some such ... [sigh] ...   
   ->     
   ->  Which is what I was implying. See, you picked right up on that.   
      
   Not so, as *I* have been saying that on FidoNet for years.  Kinda got me   
   kicked out of more than one echo ... heh heh heh ...   
      
   ->  -> political correctness is a natural outgrowth of that mess. More   
   like,   
   ->  -> political correctness is an outgrowth of Dr. Spock (the real one,   
   ->  -> not the character Leonard Nimoy portrayed - Nanoo, nanoo).   
   ->    
   ->  FS> I disagree.  Lyndon Johnson's beloved Vietnam "war" caused a   
   general   
   ->  FS> distrust of government, followed by a distrust of *all* authority.   
   ->  FS> Then the so-called "counter culture" came up with expressions later   
   ->  FS> dubbed "politically-correct", i.e., those expressions they agreed   
   with.   
   ->    
   -> Nope, Spock pre-dated Lyndon Bird. With his "mustn't spank or speak   
   harshly   
   -> lest we warp the children's little psyche(s)." Probably should have   
   warped   
   -> their little arses in many cases ... but, that's just my take on Spock's   
   -> theories. His pop-psychiatry/child rearing crap was the nose of the   
   politically   
   -> correct camel under the tent of public opinion.   
      
   You've got a point there.  Dr. Spock *did* do a lot of harm.  Many new   
   mothers followed his every word.   
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