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    RW>    
      
    BB> Here we agree. :)  Looking back I have no problem spotting just when   
    BB> most lost faith with the government - and it's that damn VN war.   
      
    RW> YEp,for a variety of reasons.   
      
    BB> I'd go even a bit farther in defining it:  The draft.   
      
    BB> When it became evident that the sons of the upper class could   
    BB> escape, thus leaving only the poor subject to it, that became a big   
    BB> divisor.  That's why so many young men fled to Canada, and was   
    BB> really the first time the powers couldn't rally the masses to the   
    BB> cause. (What the hell ever that was?)   
      
    RW> That was the other part of why folks lost faith with their   
    RW> government.  iN fact, I'm all for the draft, but imho it   
    RW> shouldn't be a draft, it should be compulsory military   
    RW> service, for every citizen, disabled, women, if you wanna   
    RW> vote, you want the benefits of citizenship, you'll showup as soon as   
    RW> you graduate from hs, or on your 18th birthday.   
      
   While women can enlist, I still feel that subjecting them to the draft would be   
   a major hoo-haw and would never fly, thus putting the whole system at risk.    
      
   Not so sure making all do military would fly either, but you offer a choice;   
   military or some civil program like CCC or the peace corp thing - hell habitat   
   for humanity would be fine with me.  Point is you do something for the good of   
   the country and you have NO exceptions except the really disabled.     
      
    RW> I tried to enlist, my draft card said "subject to call" and   
    RW> I told the man, I'm an experienced radio op. Remember back   
    RW> then the navy still used MOrse.  The man laughed at me, my   
    RW> card soon got switched to 4f.   
      
   Remember when? Hell, I was part of that myself.  :)  Although as a CT, not a   
   general service radioman.  BTW, since I was copying about 20wpm the day I   
   walked into radio schools it was a snap course for me. :) I think the plan was   
   18wpm for radiomen to graduate, but it was 35 for CTR's.  Had to hone a bit to   
   get that but made it with ease.   
      
      
      
      
    BB> WWII had young men flocking to enlist - MOST did in fact, but of   
    BB> course others waiting for the call from the friendly draft board. :)   
      
    BB> Next was the K thing.  Here the first wave was reserves called back,   
    BB> don't recall a lot of enlisting, but of course the draft caught us.   
      
    BB> Then the VN thing, and I'm at a loss to figure out just what   
    BB> happened there.   
      
    RW> YEp, the Korea thing still had teh GI bill not so diluted   
    RW> though iirc.  VN may have had it too for the most part, but   
    RW> already that benefit was being slashed iirc.  IT's not near   
    RW> what it used to be for returning soldiers iirc.   
      
      
    BB> Oh, have to add the 2k election - odd how the beat about your vote   
    BB> counts kinda died down after that one. :)   
      
    RW> Funny how that works ain't it?   
      
    RW> Regards,   
    RW>            Richard   
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