-=> FRANK SCHEIDT wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-   
      
    ->  FS> The Founding Fathers ('scuse the non-politically-correct term) did   
    ->  FS> not   
      
    -> What's non-politically correct about "Founding Fathers"? Those mothers   
    -> were all men. Even if, statistically, one or more of them might have   
    -> been queer.   
      
    FS> I've never read that any of the Founding Fathers were queer, but that's   
    FS> beside the point.   
      
   According to Kinsey 1 out of every 10 men are gay. keep in mind, that this   
   ratio is not a hard fact because not all men are "out". And in the time of the   
   founding of this experiment any fruits would have been tightly closeted ...   
   for their very lives.   
      
       
    FS> Political Correctness is involved when one uses   
    FS> "Fathers" instead of the Politically Correct "Founders" ... or, in   
    FS> extreme cases to appease the wimmin libbers:  "Mothers" ... of course   
    FS> that term enters another realm, that involving the expression   
    FS> "Motherfornicators" or some such ... [sigh] ...   
       
    Which is what I was implying. See, you picked right up on that.   
      
    -> political correctness is a natural outgrowth of that mess. More like,   
    -> political correctness is an outgrowth of Dr. Spock (the real one,   
    -> not the character Leonard Nimoy portrayed - Nanoo, nanoo).   
      
    FS> I disagree.  Lyndon Johnson's beloved Vietnam "war" caused a general   
    FS> distrust of government, followed by a distrust of *all* authority.   
    FS> Then the so-called "counter culture" came up with expressions later   
    FS> dubbed "politically-correct", i.e., those expressions they agreed with.   
      
   Nope, Spock pre-dated Lyndon Bird. With his "mustn't spank or speak harshly   
   lest we warp the children's little psyche(s)." Probably should have warped   
   their little arses in many cases ... but, that's just my take on Spock's   
   theories. His pop-psychiatry/child rearing crap was the nose of the   
   politically correct camel under the tent of public opinion.   
      
   ... It is a wise father that knows his own child. -- William Shakespeare   
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