Hello Richard,   
      
    LL>> It is all too easy to blame GWB for the problems this country has.   
    LL>> But the fact of the matter is that those problems have existed for   
    LL>> years, with little or nothing done about them. As a result, it was   
    LL>> just a matter of time before everything imploded and went to shit.   
    LL>> GWB simply made things happen sooner rather than later.   
      
    RW>> Agreed, i consider the clinton years a buble that was bound   
    RW>> to burst, sooner or later, and it wasn't that good, but at   
    RW>> least money was moving around, and folks were spending it.   
      
    LL>> It was definitely a "feel-good" presidency, the biggest story of   
    LL>> those years being the president getting a blowjob from a White House   
    LL>> intern. :)   
      
    RW> Yeah I know. i was still trying to figure out waht all that bs was about.   
    RW> Grounds for divorce, maybe, that was between him and his wife.   
    RW> What business was it of mine who honks his horn?   
      
   I really do not expect our leaders to be angels. I could care less   
   about what they do behind closed doors. As long as it does not affect   
   me, they can do whatever the hell they want. But to some folks, sex   
   really does matter. As well as sexual orientation. And God forbid   
   we ever have an open atheist as president...   
      
    LL>> I still have the speech to the nation Bill Clinton gave about the   
    LL>> meaning of the word "is". The man was such a great debater he could   
    LL>> convince his harshest critics he was right.   
      
    RW> IT was a leg slapper alright.   
      
   You remember that blue dress with the stain on it? That was real   
   evidence. Yet how many congresscritters bothered to inspect the   
   evidence? Probably no more than half a dozen. The impeachment was   
   a joke, the trial in the Senate to have the president removed from   
   office being an even bigger joke. Meanwhile, the taxpayers of this   
   country footed the entire bill, put together by Ken Starr.   
      
    RW>> AS for Wall Street, forget Wall Street, they've got their too big to   
    RW>> fail happening when it comes to sticking their hands in our wallets   
      
    RW>    
      
    RW>> The auto industry maybe, but i can't see where the rest of   
    RW>> this bailout actually helped average folks any at all. Was   
    RW>> reading in the NEw York Times weekly braille edition the   
    RW>> other day that fat cats are crying that they're limited to   
    RW>> $125k bonuses at some companies. Jesus Christ! $125k and   
    RW>> this jerk's gonna cry? Come on, he makes $60k a year and   
    RW>> is gonna cry cause his bonus is limited to $125k? I have no   
    RW>> sympathy.   
      
    LL>> And yet Mitt Romney is the frontrunner for the Republican   
    LL>> nomination. After Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary, it   
    LL>> was gloves off for Mitt Romney. The end result was Newt Gingrich   
    LL>> getting run over by a freight train. And now that Rick Santorum has   
    LL>> won three straight primaries (plus his win in Iowa) the same thing   
    LL>> will happen to him. What remains of Santorum that can be found will   
    LL>> be so scattered that it won't really matter...   
      
    RW> Yeah I know, the whole bunch of 'em scare me. Wish I still   
    RW> had it, but a NEw YOrk times braille weekly editorial said a third party   
    RW> candidate who could actually put together a   
    RW> platform talking about rebuilding the infrastructure, etc.   
    RW> could sure do well with voters. IF I still had it I'd quote some of it.   
      
   I still say for a third party candidate to be successful, he or she   
   must have three attributes -   
      
   * a geographical base   
   * charisma   
   * a single issue   
      
   The only two regions in this country having anything close to a   
   geographical base are the South (Redneck country) and the Northeast   
   (Yankee country). I doubt that anybody from the Northeast would be   
   able to gather a nationwide appeal. But a Southerner, or someone   
   who appeals to Southerners, could.   
      
    LL>> How did Mitt Romney get so fabulously wealthy? And why is he using   
    LL>> his wealth to steamroll his way to the Republican nomination? Nobody   
    LL>> seems to know what Mitt Romney is all about. What is he for? He   
    LL>> has the money to tarnish the reputation of any candidate who runs   
    LL>> against him. Not sure that strategy will work against incumbent   
    LL>> President Barack Obama in the general election, who is getting more   
    LL>> and more popular with each passing day...   
      
    RW> I've always wondered that myself. This guy's fabulously   
    RW> wealthy and will outspend the competition. I can believe   
    RW> somebody else would win Iowa though, those Republican   
    RW> farmers aren't gonna vote for a guy like Romney. I have   
    RW> plenty of Republican farmer friends back in the midwest, and before romney   
    RW> ever set foot in IOwa I could've told you that these guys weren't ROmney   
    RW> voters.   
      
   For whatever reason, Mitt Romney seems totally unable to understand   
   or speak the idiom of the general population. He keeps making the same   
   mistakes, over and over and over again. Like a total klutz, he never   
   seems able to get it. No matter how sincere he may be in trying to   
   appeal to a wider audience, he just can't do it.   
      
    LL>> "Corporations are people." - Mitt Romney   
      
    RW>> YOu cannot jail a corporation, nor can you torture it, deny   
    RW>> it liberty. YOu can holdits officers and directors liable   
    RW>> for criminal acts however. Hence, it is not a person,   
    RW>> because it cannot be held personally responsible in the way   
    RW>> people can.   
      
    LL>> It's a legal term, the courts ruling that corporations are people.   
    LL>> Gerry Spence wrote in detail about the ruling several years ago.   
      
    RW> I know that, but still it's bullshit. If you can get   
    RW> drilled down far enough to find out who actually gave the   
    RW> order, then you can jail or fine or otherwise hold that   
    RW> person responsible, but you cannot hold a corporation   
    RW> responsible for its actions as you can a person. Until you   
    RW> can, a corporation is not a person.   
      
   Nerd talk is just that. Nerd talk. Which is why Mitt Romney   
   cannot connect with everyday folks. He just keeps shooting blanks.   
      
   --Lee   
      
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