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   Lee Lofaso to Richard Webb   
   Can You Say It?   
   09 Feb 12 21:18:10   
   
   Hello Richard,   
      
   >RW>I've liked Gary Johnson since he was a governor.  I could   
   >RW>pull the lever for him.   
      
   >LL>He actually did a credible job as governor.  He does not have the   
   >LL>name recognition that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have, but if he   
   >LL>can manage to get his message across to enough people things could   
   >LL>get interesting.   
      
   RW>YEah I know, but i remember reading about him when he was   
   RW>New MExico governor and liking him then.  I'll have to do   
   RW>some research and find out if he's got anything going on in   
   RW>West Tennessee.  I'd go knocking on doors for that dude.   
   RW>A republican who put the libertarian hat on, who truly   
   RW>believes, "ain't nobody's business if you do ... " whatever   
   RW>it is you do.   
      
   Forget party labels such as "democrat" or "republican".   
   Look at the ideas presented, and ways to solve problems   
   that exist.   
      
   >LL>Elections are about winning, politics is about contrasts.  The best   
   >LL>way for a candidate to win an election is to show contrast with   
   >LL>other candidates.   
      
   RW>YEah I know, and I'm not seeing a lot of contrasts among   
   RW>the current field when it comes to the two majors.   
      
   George C. Wallace once said you can put Democrats and Republicans   
   in a bag, shake up the bag, and what comes out cannot be distinguised   
   between the two.  Although criticized as being a racist, his views on   
   politics were sound.  And what he said about contrasts being true in   
   his day is as true today as it ever was.   
      
   >LL>It used to be that federal funding might help.  But not in today's   
   >LL>politics.  For example, Barack Obama turned away federal funds in   
   >LL>his bid for the presidency.  I expect him to do the same this time   
   >LL>around. I also expect Mitt Romney (assuming he is the Republican   
   >LL>nominee) to also bypass federal funding.  Both candidates (Obama and   
   >LL>Romney) are expected to move toward the center, trying to gain as   
   >LL>many votes as they can from those voters who are neither stronly   
   >LL>liberal nor strongly conservative.  And that is where a Libertarian   
   >LL>candidate, or a Socialist candidate, can make some headway.  Still a   
   >LL>longshot for such a candidate to win, but could make a difference as   
   >LL>to which candidate wins.   
      
   RW>A libertarian maybe, but i doubt a socialist.   
      
   Depends on how the term is defined.  Norman Thomas ran as   
   a Socialist candidate for years.  Although he never won the   
   presidency, many of his ideas were adopted by both major   
   political parties, especially the Democratic Party.   
      
   RW>Obama will   
   RW>ahve to stress the fact that Romney's not like us average   
   RW>folks but extremely rich, and for the very rich.  Still,   
   RW>Obama's another Harvard lawyer or whatever Ivy LEague   
   RW>school it was, and that ain't no common folks SOmebody like   
   RW>JOhnson, who iirc isn't a lawyer by trade and who was   
   RW>common folks can sure emphasize that, you're right there.   
      
   Barack Obama will present himself as being a happily married   
   father of two wonderful girls, a devout Christian, and somebody   
   who is always looking out for the best interest of the middle   
   class.  Naturally, he will use that image to contrast himself   
   with that of a wealthy man who hates the poor and likes to   
   fire people...   
      
   RW>That's part of our problem, the two majors keep runing   
   RW>these damned lawyers at us.   
      
   Barack Obama is a lawyer and a fine teacher of Constitutional Law.   
   Mitt Romney is no lawyer, but rather a failed businessman...   
      
   RW>What do you call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the   
   RW>ocean?   
      
   RW>Answer #1:  Not enough lawyers   
      
   RW>Answer #2:  A good start.   
      
   We always make jokes about lawyers.  But truth be known, most   
   of the Framers of the Constitution were lawyers.  And rather good   
   ones at that.   
      
   --Lee   
      
      
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