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   Message 8,036 of 10,398   
   mark lewis to Nick Andre   
   SR13   
   20 Jun 17 15:18:14   
   
    On 2017 Jun 20 14:00:22, you wrote to me:   
      
    ML>> it supports the MSG message base format... in sbbsecho only but it is   
    ML>> there and not really configurable other than maybe defining the   
    ML>> directory to use. sbbsecho uses it to communicate with other   
    ML>> non-mailer software, too... interbbs games have to use MSG format as   
    ML>> they don't know BSO and can't make FTN PKTs... this is also how   
    ML>> sbbsecho communicates with non-BSO mailers... could probably also   
    ML>> make it directly compatible with dB... problem is how m folks are   
    ML>> still using a non-BSO mailer these days... DM did ask for some   
    ML>> volunteers with non-BSO mailers to please test the new code but no   
    ML>> one responded...   
      
    NA> Many people in Fido and Othernets are using DB. I don't collect stats,   
    NA> but its being used with all sorts of BBS software. Someone in this   
    NA> echo a few years ago wrote a comprehensive guide to D'Bridge on Linux   
    NA> with SBBS. I know it can work with it, just probably a lot of messing   
    NA> around with SBBSECHO.   
      
   sbbsecho has been rewritten since then...   
      
    NA> I did reply to a SBBS developer, Stephen somebody, I forget the   
    NA> name... sometime I believe it was 2 years ago about this. I was asked   
    NA> if I could contribute or help with the code for SBBSECHO and perhaps   
    NA> integrate DB directly. I was told a story about how the code was a   
    NA> mess, it was always something that seemed "tacked on" and was never   
    NA> really satisfactory.   
      
   yeah, that was the old original sbbsecho that was written by someone else and   
   then eventually adopted into the sbbs repo... since then it has basically sat   
   with a few modifications and updates but nothing really major... then it was   
   decided to rewrite it... now there's more logging and it is easier to see   
   things happening and figure out config problems... MSG is still used in the   
   "middle" for at least netmail... that's how allfix and other tools interact...   
   i'm guessing that they use the same MSG directory that sbbsecho uses... i know   
   there's an option, or there was, to import local netmail... basically netmail   
   that someone wrote to another user on the same system... it would get exported   
   and then needed to be imported back to the destination user's account...   
   there's also an option to not delete unknown netmails so that tools like   
   allfix and interbbs doors can run through them looking for their inbound   
   netmails for processing...   
      
    NA> I replied very politely and said I was not able to share the entire   
    NA> source code for DB but would be happy to contribute code snippets for   
    NA> packet handling, Queue, mail sessions etc. Anything they needed out of   
    NA> DB I was prepared to share or discuss... but I'm not handing over the   
    NA> entire code.   
      
    NA> Crickets chirping after that.   
      
   i doubt they would want the entire code base :)  but yeah, i hear ya... you do   
   have quite a bit of documentation about it, though... i remember reading it a   
   while back... especially the queue stuff... i think as long as MSG is still in   
   use, they should still work together... the question is if sbbsecho needs some   
   more work for MSG mailers or not... with the new rewrite, it may...   
      
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