On 2017 Feb 10 21:55:14, you wrote to me:   
      
    NB>>> You say potato, etc..   
      
    ml>> yes and no... it is really easy to understand though...   
      
    NB> I understand it just fine, though you seem to want to continue to teach me   
    NB> something I already know. :)   
      
   some of the things you say seem to indicate that you don't actually know some   
   things... it is easier for me to just go ahead and do it in the one post   
   rather than pulling hen's teeth going back and forth asking and answering   
   questions...   
      
    ml>> of course not... their glyphs are different than latin glyphs... this   
    ml>> is really simple when looking at the old school way... there are   
      
    NB> Therein lies the problem from my standpoint. I've used CP437 (and   
    NB> still do when it comes to the BBS itself) and all it's limitations.   
    NB> Besides displaying ANSI graphics on my BBS to callers using ANSI   
    NB> capable terminal programs, I'm over the "old school way" when it comes   
    NB> to messaging. There should be no limitations whatsoever. One should be   
    NB> able to read and write whatever they desire. I went ahead and made   
    NB> that possible for myself. If others don't care to do so, that's their   
    NB> choice.   
      
   agreed... and to coin a phrase, "but don't go shoving your religion down   
   other's throats"**... as long as it is readable on other systems that are   
   still saddled with CP437, great... more power to ya... not everyone runs linux   
   or winwhatever... hell, there's even some old commie and apple boards coming   
   back... they have also been fidonet members in the past and carried fidonet on   
   those systems... if one wants to communicate with the widest dispersal, they   
   need to use the lowest common denominator...   
      
      
   ** that's not about you, not aimed at you, and "you" is all inclusive, not   
   singular... "religion" could be OS, GUI, BBS package, mail tosser, character   
   set, politics, morals, or even genitals...   
      
    ml>> because it depends also on what his OS can display... what i mean by   
    ml>> this is that he has to be able to load the OS with the needed code   
    ml>> page to view them correctly but if he does that, he'll lose all the   
    ml>> normal latin glyphs... switching to UTF-8 on the OS will alleviate   
      
    NB> In this case (as well as many others) I don't think the OS has   
    NB> anything to do with it. He's using Windows 10, which has the   
    NB> capabilities to use anything he would be so inclinded to use for his   
    NB> own purposes. It's the antique FTN software that is holding people   
    NB> back.   
      
   antiques are valuable... especially when they dwindle to fewer and fewer which   
   drives their value even higher...   
      
    NB> A lot of people choose to move on with their OS as they are released,   
    NB> but then get upset when their software from the 80s doesn't continue   
    NB> to work. Had the developers of that 80s software still been around   
    NB> today, they would have and could have updated it to reflect new   
    NB> technology in modern OSes.   
      
   those people are still around... they left fidonet because of all the   
   politics, in-fighting, and other general BS with others telling them /how/ to   
   do what they were doing... some left for $$$ too...   
      
    NB> With that said, I don't fault anyone for using what they choose to   
    NB> use. Whatever floats your boat and works best for you, by all means   
    NB> stick with it. However, I've chosen to make changes in order to   
    NB> accomplish things I've wanted to accomplish, and am okay with the fact   
    NB> that it may or may not work on other's systems.   
      
   that's fine... remember, there was no attack against you...   
      
   BTW: what's going on with that proposal? were you able to get the last version   
   from stephen off his HD instead of the last posted one? netmail reply is   
   fine... just drop it off at my boss node, /12, addressed to this point... or   
   route it the whole way... either way is fine by me...   
      
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