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   Hello Carol!   
      
   Friday March 10 2023 15:50, you wrote to me:   
      
      
    > All good points but I have 3rd party firewalls and a cisco router.   
    > It's a non-issue for me.  Suspect it is for Andre as well.   
      
   Agreed but not everyone has invested in their own router at least in the UK a   
   very high percentage use the ISP supplied one value 10 pounds / dollars on a   
   good day with facilities to match and the firewalls are basic.   
      
   For example the last two I recall had no facilities for for port forwarding    
   and   
   the like and as for understanding red, green DMZ's etc a total no-no.   
   Like wise no support for updating firmware - now I do have to admit that Asus   
   does not update theirs too often but a few time per year is ok with me bearing   
   in mind the changelogs are light on major issues. I suspect the other major   
   brands are similar.   
      
   None of the one's I have used at least over the last 10++ or so years have    
   been   
   managed to my knowledge there again the cost has been under 200 which is   
   plenty enough :(.   
      
   I dread to think how many old one's are sitting boxed up in my loft / roof   
   space and no that does not include the freebies but have to admit I use one   
   from the cable company (Virgin Media) but only as a modem (because it has a   
   telephone connector and yes I should consider voip phone's but my main one is   
   a mobile set of four in different parts of the house as well as one emergency   
   one that has a sim card in for power cuts and no don't use it as I have UPS   
   units on my main system and one for my wife's desktop for for all the other   
   systems around the house they will just die until power is restored - 2   
   Raspberry Pis one of which runs the Elist system, one as a media system   
   (records TV programs etc and if power is down can't watch the TV anyway).   
   There are a few other system around non UPS'd and one mainframe that is which    
   must get around to pass on to some organisation that will allow user's to use   
   via internet and replace with a single phase version but these are very hard    
   to   
   find at least in the UK and Mr. wallet says has to be cheap.   
      
   Vincent   
      
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