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     Re: WIndows 10 32 bit   
     By: Vincent Coen to Nick Andre on Fri Mar 10 2023 02:23 pm   
      
    > Hello Nick!   
    >    
    > Thursday March 09 2023 19:00, you wrote to me:   
    >    
    >  > On 09 Mar 23  21:37:10, Vincent Coen said the following to Dean   
    >  > Galloway:   
    >    
    >  VC>> It has not had support and includes security updates, for many,   
    >  VC>> many years upgrade it to v10 (you will not find if using old kit   
    >  VC>> that it will install need very up to date h/w).   
    >    
    >  > While I would agree with this... I decided to keep the BBS instance on   
    >  > XP because after many frustrating nights with 7, 8, 8.1 and 10   
    >  > randomly hanging NTVDM it became more hassle than its worth.   
    >    
    >  > I strongly believe Microsoft changed something in NTVDM after XP that   
    >  > made running anything DOS-BBS-related extremely unreliable here.   
    >    
    > Since XP and NT for that matter MS have been removing support for DOS in all   
    > where from v7 it is all gone so yes that is more than likely BUT I have not   
    > tried or for that matter looked into what, when and where has happened after   
    > XP.   
    >    
    > I therefore have no idea of the issues found when using later versions of   
    > Windoz - I gave up with MS and Dos many years ago and switched to OS/2 and w   
    > all know what happened with that after 1999 or there about.   
    > I decided I had no choice but to use Linux or other *nix and if needed wine   
    > which has/had it's own problems.   
    >    
    > My basic point was that any one using XP,NT etc would have no support   
    > regarding   
    > security aspects of Windows from MS.   
    >    
    > How ever that said a strong firewall would help even if only using the one   
    > installed in good quality routers (that does NOT include the one's supplied    
    > the ISP - which I have found to be some what poor).   
    > In my case I have been using Asus - at least in more recent years to handle   
    > primary firewall and port forwarding etc with a more minor role taken by Lin   
    > firewall tools BUT still used.   
    >    
    > It helps of course that main processes such as BBS, Apache etc is run in a V   
    > most of which are read-only processes. These environments are updated often    
    > any updates so that are kept fresh - not perfect but...   
    >    
    > Needless to say the Linux environment is run at High security so that root   
    > privileges and access, are minimised.   
    >    
    > I would not want to trust old Window versions on a system that has incoming   
    > access via the internet without some very strong other tools that will cover   
    > the problems/issues.   
    >    
    > i.e., I run a mainframe via a concentrator that is a micro based computer th   
    > vets all incoming connections that must have a registered MAC code, CPU   
    > model and serial no., user name and password among other checks before   
    > allowing   
    > a user access any further. It seems to do the job so far.   
    >    
    > Vincent   
    >    
      
   All good points but I have 3rd party firewalls and a cisco router.  It's a   
   non-issue for me.  Suspect it is for Andre as well.   
      
     xxcarol   
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