>> Yeah I am finding this, but in some ways my 14 year old son, is   
   >> almost as bad, if not worse :)   
   > I have daughters, no sons, both well grown up and on their own.  However I   
   > usually get along fine with other's 14-ish year old sons.  Not always, but   
   >usually.  There is one that comes around here to Coffin Point to check out the   
   >happenings and ask advice.  That seldom happens with daughters.  Only once her   
   > but she only wanted to use my internet connection to email her friends (I let   
   >her).  Beats me why their parents think I am safe for their kids to 'hang out'   
   > with but they are right to assume that.  In fact I probably give them more   
   >'heck' than their parents do and am not afraid to talk with them about all the   
   >stuff they falsely think they are getting away with.  We all know ... don't we   
      
      
   I always find, in general, that other peoples kids are ok, it is always mine   
   that are not :)   
      
   Sean   
      
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