This apparently got eaten by the black hole, too... never saw it   
   anywhere but on the bbs I sent it from.  Dunno if it was length or just   
   bad karma... ;)  Just in case it was length, I've split it in two...   
   first half mostly about work...  ;)   
      
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     Msg#: 74                                           Date: 20-Jun-2015 17:12   
     From: Nancy Backus                                 Read: Yes    Replied: No    
       To: Damon A. Getsman                             Mark:                        
     Subj: Re: Misc and parents at another level   
   ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ   
   -=> Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 14-Jun-2015 17:38 <=-   
      
    DAG> Re: Re: Misc and parents at another level (was  trying again)   
       
    NB>> For sure... Had he had any management experience previously...?  One   
    NB>> can hope that by now he's learned how to do the basics... or that   
    NB>> they've figured out that he isn't going to work out...   
    DAG> That was the bit that really surprised me.  He'd had plenty of   
    DAG> experience as a manager, but it had obviously been his first gig.    
    DAG> Also, it was at a fast pizza joint, which is really not much like a   
    DAG> fully organic convenience service atmosphere, except in that it is   
    DAG> serving food.  Once you cross the threshold into the kitchen it's a   
    DAG> very different matter from any place just slangin prepared and heavily   
    DAG> preserved ingredients.    
      
   Some aspects of being a manager would carry over from one to the other,   
   but moving from fast food to prepared food would take it up a notch or   
   two...  :)   
      
    DAG> So I think what happened is that when he got to a place where he had   
    DAG> at least 5x as many irons in the fire at once, it started affecting   
    DAG> things in a detrimental fashion all around even the skill set that he   
    DAG> did already have.    
      
   A lot more mananging to keep track of...  so unless he was a natural   
   manager, there'd be a huge learning curve...    
      
    DAG> Either which way, I've well decided to go with   
    DAG> different currents now; I am very much hoping that I don't have to do   
    DAG> that kind of work to survive ever again.   
       
   From what I've seen so far, you don't need that sort of a   
   pressure-cooker environment...  :)   
      
    NB>> Having had the experience, it's something that you can call up in   
    NB>> memory to remind you of the perspective... volunteering in similar   
    NB>> settings can do the same thing... :)   
    DAG> I do miss some of the volunteer work that I did.  Most of it was for   
    DAG> like $7 an hour (I wish I were making that up), but it did manage to   
      
   $7 an hour...?   That's $7 more than I ever got volunteering... ;)  All   
   my volunteering was for free, and largely not even recognized...  :)   
      
    DAG> provide a bit of pride and conscience about the different things that I   
    DAG> was accomplishing in my day, as well as the different issues that I   
    DAG> could really have to be dealing with in my day.  It was funny, now that   
    DAG> I look back at my primary stretch in that work I actually came upon   
    DAG> that experience running from other things that I had to deal with.  I   
    DAG> had come out of one of the longest, best, relationships that I'd had to   
    DAG> that point, and my heart was thoroughly shattered.  I had been awaiting   
    DAG> enlistment in the navy for almost a year, and then they turned me down   
    DAG> just a few days before I was supposed to ship out.  I ended up   
    DAG> snagging two jobs, one at a McDonald's, and one doing the work that I   
    DAG> was talking about above, and I was working regularly 70+ hours a week   
    DAG> in order to save up what I could for a new start and to keep myself   
    DAG> distracted from the suffering at any cost.  Having that one job,   
    DAG> working with people in much more dire circumstances than myself was,   
    DAG> perhaps, one of the best things that could've happened to me at the   
    DAG> time.    
      
   Valuable experience, even if it didn't pay well... both jobs,   
   actually... ;)   But the one that gave you some perspective was indeed a   
   good thing for you there... one can so easily be so caught up in one's   
   own sufferings that they don't see that their own might not be the worst   
   possible thing in the world after all...    
      
    DAG> Indeed.  Hence my lateness to reply to this.  Illness has been doing   
    DAG> laps around the different people in this apartment, too, so it's been   
    DAG> rougher than normal lately.  I really hope that my employer understands   
    DAG> the illness bit when we're only hitting about 50% of the hours that   
    DAG> we're authorized.  'Course, betting on the budget requirements of the   
    DAG> client, there's a good chance that [at least the client] will be   
    DAG> grateful for the easiness on their pocketbook. Still, I really like to   
    DAG> be a bit more consistent with all of this. Unfortunately I'm not just   
    DAG> at the mercy of whenever I can put hours in; there's also other people   
    DAG> in the equation who don't exactly have the same drive to work as I do.   
      
   Just have to make sure that you keep the employer in the loop when   
   illness takes its toll...  I trust that the illness has finally run its   
   course and let you all be back to normal...?   
      
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