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|    Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman    |
|    Re: camping was: bbsing    |
|    19 May 15 19:25:12    |
      -=> Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 13-May-2015 11:04 <=-               NB>> How old is he, again...? At some point, he ought to be able to learn how        NB>> to take disappointment in stride... but that does take some maturity. :)        NB>> It does, though, help if one wasn't setting one's heart on it... ;)        DAG> He's 8, going to be turning 9 on the first here.               That's still pretty young... although, by that age, I was oldest of 5       kids, and learning that other things often had priority over what I       might have liked... ;)               DAG> I'm working with        DAG> him on the disappointment bit, but I still try to make sure that I        DAG> don't set him up for it by telling him about plans that have any sort        DAG> of a decent chance of being pre-empted. :) He's really good about it,        DAG> for the most part, but I like to save him the added disappointment        DAG> being as we've been in a situation where he gets so few things above        DAG> and beyond the average everyday norm for so long now.               Makes sense... and if he's not set up to expect something, he won't miss       it if it doesn't happen after all... probably wouldn't hurt for him to       know, more in the abstract, that you are trying to figure out ways to do       some special things, though...               DAG> Well, right now I think that the economic stability kind of takes        DAG> the priority in most areas. I'm going to try to make up for him        DAG> missing that last little outing soon here. The economic situation is        DAG> starting to look a little bit better. Might even be able to have next        DAG> month's rent paid by the end of next week. If that happens there's        DAG> some definite forward motion [finally] taking place.              That does sound like things are stabilizing a bit more... :)                NB>> Sounds quite promising... paycheck to paycheck is better than no        NB>> paycheck at all... but it certainly is nicer to have a reasonable        NB>> amount coming in regularly... :)        DAG> It's going up. Slowly but surely. For what it's worth the issue        DAG> right now isn't _my_ productivity level, either. It's the fact that        DAG> the project manager has a limited amount of time. I'm usually sitting        DAG> here wanting to put in more hours every day, but I'm waiting on his        DAG> schedule to free up a bit so that I can get more bits carved off that I        DAG> can chew easier. That shouldn't be so much of a problem in the future,        DAG> but with the familiarity I have with the stack that their site is        DAG> deployed with I really need smaller chunks carved off for me...              Yeah, as you get more familiar with the whole project, you'll be able to       handle bigger chunks at a time...               DAG> Especially when the people reporting the problems don't even know        DAG> enough about the situation to give me enough information to diagnose...              Par for the course, though... :)               DAG> Shouldn't have to worry about anything like that with a little more        DAG> experience, at least. Totally still a virgin on this 'magento' suite,        DAG> though. :)               You'll get there... :)                NB>> So, if I understand correctly, you went with some others in a van to go        NB>> camping...? A couple of families with kids...? Was this some sort of        NB>> organized program, or something that people just got together to do...?        NB>> Sounds like a long trip... hard for kids to be cooped up that long...        DAG> It was a long trip, definitely. It was myself, my roomie, his        DAG> girlfriend, and her two kids (along with my son) in a mini-van. I        DAG> think that I'm somewhat spoiled, because my son is so good at dealing        DAG> with trips like that. He's _NEVER_ done anything like that, even when        DAG> he was 4-5, even on 15+ hour drives. He just doesn't act that way.               And some kids just travel better than others... I remember taking my       son on long trips, just him and me, when he was only about 6... I       remember joking about how I must be out of my mind, to even consider       that sort of trip, but he was just fine... Until he actually started       driving his own vehicles, he'd be asleep within 10 minutes, and probably       sleep the entire trip, more or less... ;)               DAG> Different strokes for different folks, I've got to remember... Not        DAG> every parent has been able to spend as much time with their kids as I        DAG> was able to for the first 6 years with my little man, either. I've        DAG> been lucky in a whole lot of areas.               Good thing to think about and remember... :) Another way of keeping       perspective... :)               NB>> Yes, at least he and the other kids had a chance to run and play... and        NB>> sleep outside for the night... ;) Too bad it wasn't a little longer in        NB>> the camping phase, for the long trip there and back...        DAG> They probably reaped a lot more benefit from the whole situation        DAG> than the adults did. They had the entire 18 hours, sans sleeping time,        DAG> frolicking in the woods and having a blast. It was just the van trips        DAG> that were tough for them, and I think really only the one. The kids        DAG> seem much more able to tune out the cries of one of their own than the        DAG> cranky old farts. ;)               How old was the kid that was having the meltdown(s)...? Some kids just       don't travel well, either... ;(               DAG> But it was great to see my son (and the other        DAG> kids) being able to have such a blast for such a long stretch of time        DAG> out there. Especially after the isolation that my poor little guy has        DAG> to endure (as I've whined about endlessly ;).               I'm glad that it was generally a good trip... with real benefits... :)               NB>> That still gives at least 50% chance that it WON'T happen... :)         NB>> Maybe not even in your lifetime... ;)        DAG> Well I've always been one of those people with a 'can-do' attitude.         DAG> Even when it comes to the Earth 'can-do'ing an earthquake to try to        DAG> chuck me off into space. ;)              One does need to draw the line somewhere... ;)                DAG> That reminds me I haven't yet meditated today. ;) I'm working on        DAG> it, every little slice at a time. I find that it's definitely showing        DAG> benefits, too. Like those nightly revisitation and haunting hours that        DAG> I've mentioned before. When I haven't had way too much coffee or done        DAG> anything else that spikes my anxiety uncontrolably, I find I'm having a        DAG> much easier time banishing such thoughts. It just takes me a few        DAG> minutes to concentrate on releasing those circular chains of thought, a        DAG> few minutes to concentrate on something happy like my son playing in        DAG> the bathtub and cackling when he was 3, and then I'm good to go.         DAG> Sometimes it's a little tougher than that, but not so often. Either        DAG> way, it's a lifesaver when I'm trying to go to sleep. I was out of        DAG> sorts on the camping trip, but I bet in areas where I'm having        DAG> illogical phobias or paranoia like in the earthquake/vulcanism scenerio        DAG> it'd probably help quite a bit, as well. As I seem to recall I was way        DAG> hopped up on coffee because I hadn't had nearly enough sleep the night        DAG> before...               Yup... sounds quite reasonable... Keeping the illogical (mostly)       phobias at bay is a good thing, and I can see where the meditation, or       at least some diverting concentrations could help with that... and       minimizing the coffee jitters couldn't hurt, either... ;)               NB>> Offline readers are quite the godsend at times, to be sure... :)        NB>> Especially since I'm in DOS, not exactly what you'd call a        NB>> multi-tasking environment... ;)               DAG> Wow. Are you using DOS because of older hardware? Just curious...               Partly, and mostly by choice. I don't get along well with mice and       other tracking devices, and I am quite content with command line... This       computer has some extra commands, some from *nix, and some from small       utilities my resident wizard has written... And I have some good       software for the things I do... :)               DAG> There are a few drop-in replacements for DOS (like TSX-11) that'll give        DAG> you a DOS compatible environment that can support some multitasking, I        DAG> believe. I mean not that there's anything wrong with working linear;        DAG> it's probably a lot better for productivity and focus. :)              That, too... :)                DAG> I just realized I've still got some old QWK packets sitting here        DAG> from other BBSes that I was going to read before I had to reinstall my        DAG> operating system for the umpteenth time here, too. I'll have to break        DAG> out metamail pretty quick here, probably. Hell, it might be easier to        DAG> use that even for my own BBS; I've found an issue lately where if I go        DAG> take too long of a break from composing a message it logs me out for        DAG> some reason, and I lose whatever I've already written. Not sure what        DAG> setting I toggled to cause that evil, but I'm not finding it to set it        DAG> back easily... Best wishes!              At the very least, I suppose you'll just have to be sufficiently       efficient to finish composing the message in the one sitting...       apparently the bbs is seeing too long of a period of inactivity...       that's probably the setting, wherever it might be hiding... |
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