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|    NANCY BACKUS to DAMON A. GETSMAN    |
|    Re: much ado about heartb    |
|    09 Aug 14 15:58:00    |
      -=> Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 08-06-14 11:14 <=-               DAG> Whoops I just went back to the quote buffer and realized that I        DAG> already said some on this. :P              Yup... ;)                 NB>> Lots of history there, to make you what you are now... no doubt also on        NB>> her side... What one makes out of it is the question... :)               DAG> That is precisely the point that I'm working to get to. For a long        DAG> time I was grieving, _hard_. I don't remember ever going through that        DAG> in a relationship before. It wasn't just her this time, though. I        DAG> mean, like I said, I was a member of that whole family this time        DAG> around. Her father's last friend died while I was there; she takes        DAG> care of him. I became his last friend, and right now I can't even call        DAG> him to try to be a decent person, because I can't stop thinking of HER        DAG> if I do it; my heartrate goes up to 150+, and I have a massive anxiety        DAG> attack.               That's a tough situation. Especially since to talk to him, you'd likely       have to talk to her... Even when you are the one that had to cause the       break, it doesn't make it any easier... one still may grieve the loss...               DAG> I'm trying to make sure that I'm working on myself in all of        DAG> this. I can only change me, and obviously (due to a lot of things that        DAG> I didn't mention here; signs I should have paid attention to, despite        DAG> her contrary words to what they were showing) I need to learn to not        DAG> ignore characteristics of this sort. Plus I need to learn that maybe I        DAG> shouldn't be so hurt by somebody that has these characteristics.               Yeah... sometimes it's a case of realizing that that is the way someone       is, and that there wasn't anything you could have done to make things       easier on yourself, short of never having started the relationship...       not only in romantic type relationships either, I should add...               NB>> Sometimes it's pretty hard to ascertain that there is that active        NB>> deception, of course... One to some extent has to accept people as        NB>> they present themselves... but there is also certainly the need for        NB>> discernment and not being too gullible... :) A balancing act, to        NB>> be sure... :)               DAG> Well, yeah. She was slipping up with things that proved it, though,        DAG> and I glossed over them because I thought she was honest about working        DAG> on these issues. Then again, there were things that proved this to be        DAG> inaccurate, too. I tried to resurrect our original agreement, that we        DAG> were there for each other through thick and thin, to carefully bring up        DAG> to each other things that might've been in each others' blind spots,        DAG> and to improve ourselves together to be the best parents, soulmates,        DAG> and people that we could be.               Apparently she wasn't being completely truthful about agreeing to the       original setup, either... or hadn't really been honest to herself what       that might have meant, being played out in real life... :)               NB>> Yeah... I think that's where we left off... ;) Seems that craziness        NB>> in one form or another seems to follow you around... |
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