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|    Richard Webb to Bob Ackley    |
|    Welfare    |
|    17 Oct 10 14:48:36    |
      HI Bob,               ml> not everyone without a job is on welfare but they can still find ways        ml> to provide for their needs... this does not mean that they do not        ml> "work" for their "living"... contrary to what the gov't believes...               OF course, because many who were forced to use the system       found the means tests and other hoops too onerous, because       once they submitted they'd never be able to escape.              BA> Some do. I've been unemployed, and have drawn unemployment (I'm not       BA> eligible for welfare due to my military retirement annuity). At the       BA> moment I've been unemployed for just shy of two years, fortunately       BA> I'm eligible for and draw Social Security to pay       BA> the bills (that aforementioned annuity makes the house and insurance       BA> payments) - so I can say I'm retired. although not by my choice.              RIght, and some who do find themselves in a trap they can't       get out of.       SEe below.              BA> I can remember my parents griping in *1960* about second and third       BA> generations of people living on California's at-the-time quite       BA> generous welfare system. Back       BA> in those days states provided varying levels of benefits and people       BA> were moving to California simply to get on the welfare system there,       BA> and the state attempted to place a residency time requirement before       BA> one would become eligible - and lost       BA> a federal lawsuit over it. The feds gradually took over the entire       BA> welfare system -       BA> mainly by mandating that states provide certain levels of benefits       BA> and eligibility,       BA> not by paying for it. The federal Medicaid program is even worse       BA> off than Medicare WRT funding - and has been for years.              MIght have been generous payments to the baby factories, but for those who       went blind the requirements were onerous. IF       you wanted to, for example, return to working as an       automechanic, the cost of your tools, etc. counted against       you. such programs, before federal standardization were       administered by the counties, and you were under the       capricious thumb of a possibly ignorant socialworker. As       soon as you give somebody control over somebody else's life, especially when       that somebody is an otherwise powerless       paper shuffler then you've got a problem. Federal       standardization, at least in the aid to the blind programs       made the rules the same for everybody. IN other programs it was partially       inacted to stem the tide of migration from one place to another.              IF you want to read up on the subject from the point of view of intelligent       folks who found themselves as "beneficiaries" (victims) of the system, read       HOpe Deferred by Jacobus       TenBroek.              tenBroek was a law professor at UC. Berkeley, and blind       since he was a small boy as the result of an accident.       Real trouble is, what was supposed to happen didn't work as       reliably as they thought. ONe was still subject to the       whims of whatever "caseworker" one had to deal with. SOme       weren't really too clued up on the fact that so-called       disabled folks were still able to be productive, unless they were pushing       somebody into a menial dead-end job which       wouldn't really pull them out of poverty. IT doesn't matter how much you       patch the system to try to eliminate this if       the socialworkers in the field don't understand, and       evenhandedly apply the rules.              THen there's the fact that the system is far more generous       to the babymakers, and too many loopholes have allowed those who should not be       qualified to receive benefits. Iow the       system is still extremely dysfunctional and broken.              Regards,        Richard       --- timEd 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: (1:116/901)    |
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