ml>> FWIW: i don't understand everyone else whining about folk using   
    ml>> the services that they have paid into for so long and never will   
    ml>> use...   
      
    RC>> When the system gets abused by those who didnt pay into it?   
      
    ml> why is that abuse? there is nothing that i'm aware of that says anyone   
    ml> who participates in is must have paid something into it...   
      
   you didn't answer this question...   
      
    ml> why is it abuse when they can use the monies that you have paid in   
    ml> that you'll never use?   
      
    RC> Then leave it in my paycheck so I can use it.   
      
   i can't do anything about that... but you can ;) if you don't want to pay it,   
   the go under the table... but then, you loose out on a lot of other stuff...   
      
    RC> Welfare should be a hand up, not a hand out.   
      
   social welfare is governmental provision of economic assistance to persons in   
   need... how, when and where it is applied is not up to you or me... the   
   politicians put it in place... the only way we might change it is if we become   
   politicians and i don't think that either of us wants to do that ;)   
      
   )\/(ark   
      
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