On 01-20-11, BOB KLAHN said to ALL:   
      
      
      
   ~>>  Since I would have no reason to check the list before *RENEWING*   
   ~>>  my echos   
      
      
   EC> Notice that he now falls back to weasel-wording.  He   
      
      
   BK>Notice how Earl falls back to distortion and deception.   
      
      
   Notice how Klahn comes right out and `proves' himself a liar:   
      
      
   (Pay attention, now)   
      
      
   BK>Straight out, I do not check my echos to see how they are listed before   
   BK>renewing the listing.   
      
      
   At some point.....Klahn had to *know* the ALL-POLITICS echo was *not* one of   
   Klahn's echoes.   
      
      
   EC> already said that he CHECKS the list before sending in a   
   EC> listing.   
      
      
   So......knowing that echo was *not* one of Klahn's echo....he was living a lie   
   when he just walked in and started acting the moderator roll.   
      
      
   BK>Yes. I have done that in every case where I listed a new echo.   
      
      
   In other words.....he started out as *not* the moderator, *knowing* he was not   
   the moderator....and when he went to list ALL-POLITICS *PRIOR* to taking up   
   the roll of moderator, he'd have found that Earl was the moderator there.   
      
      
   BK>I do *NOT* do that if I have good reason to believe I already have   
   BK>the echo listed.   
      
      
   Klahn *had* to have known that he didn't have that echo listed with himself as   
   the moderator.   
      
      
   BK>Is Earl actually fool enough to try to claim I   
   BK>meant I recheck the echolist every single time I relist an echo?   
      
      
   Is Klahn fool enough to try to claim that he didn't try to hijack Earl's echo?   
      
      
   EC> That led him into a deadend. CHECKS the list   
   EC> before sending in a listing.  That led him into a deadend.   
      
      
   BK>No, it did not. It just gave Earl another excuse to twist and   
   BK>deceive.   
      
      
   Klahn has gone around the horn with this thread and gotten backed into a   
   corner.   
      
      
   BK>Ok, readers... either Earl knows a lot less than he wants you to   
   BK>think he does, or he is counting on your ignorance to get away   
   BK>with that.   
      
      
   He' got caught trying to hijack Earl's echo, and he's squirming on the hook.   
      
      
   BK>When you renew an echo you do not send in a listing, you send in   
   BK>an update. Officially, an moderator update. Shortened to   
   BK>Mod Upd.   
      
      
   Klahn is trying to make everyone believe that he didn't try to list the echo   
   in his name, knowing full well the echo wasn't his.   
      
      
   BK>Just so you know a bit about how it works.   
      
      
   EC>  He is careful not to say that he DID NOT check the list,   
   EC>  but to merely say that he HAD NO REASON to do so.   
      
      
   For many years now, Klahn has put on the air of being smarter than everyone   
   else in Fido.   
      
      
   BK>Which is why I did not do it. Now, that's said straight out.   
      
      
   And with some, he has gotten away with it. But he's played that roll for so   
   long that his arrogance has overcome his brains. He now is fully convinced   
   that he can say anything and its accepted as truth.   
      
      
   BK>Hey, all readers... I have been at this long enough to know, if   
   BK>you try to list an already listed echo without the correct   
   BK>password, it won't work.   
      
      
   He acted the moderator in an echo he wasn't the moderator of....   
      
      
   BK>So, had I checked the echo list and found I did not have the   
   BK>echo listed I would have known submitting an update would not   
   BK>work.   
      
      
   He had to know who the real moderator was all along.....   
      
      
   EC> A renewal is the easiest thing in the world.  You go to your   
   EC> previously-sent e-mail to the echolist, and you send it   
   EC> again.  He did not do that in November.  When he tried to   
   EC> ban two people, he suddenly realized that he had never   
   EC> listed ALL-POLITICS and he tried to grab it.   
      
      
   BK>Uh, that is a lie. He did not even offer that as speculation, he   
   BK>said it as if it were a fact. That makes it a lie.   
      
      
   Its the truth. And Klahn is a liar!   
      
      
      
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