Hello mark!   
      
   21 Jan 11 17:45, you wrote to Bob Ackley:   
      
   ::DISCLAIMER::   
      
   You are not being moderated perse..   
      
    BA>> In order to BE the moderator one has to be listed as such,   
      
    ml> this too is false... show me an echo of roy witt's that is listed in   
    ml> the elist and in so doing, show me where he is listed as the   
    ml> moderator...   
      
   Irrelevant, the echolist and how it gets viewed goes beyond the scope of how   
   Roy, Klahn, Lofaso view it personally.   
      
   Remember this, something is always your friend until it becomes either a   
   hindrance to ones agenda or outright enemy. Therefore the echolist can be seen   
   by others in the same fashion.   
      
   In the case of all-politics, the difference is that what Klahn *HAD* listed   
   were variants based on a underscore and a space, not the boned one, containing   
   a hyphen. I do not personally read the echolist on a daily basis and use it   
   only as a matter of reference, especially since I am the one who maintains the   
   backbone files. But I did assume that Klahn had his bases covered in the   
   echolist dept, up until it was pointed out to me.   
      
   Had this echo for all this time til present, not been in the echolist, there   
   could be made a strong case *for* Klahn. But there is a paper trail and   
   existing record that shows that Klahn is not the listed moderator of record.   
      
   For purposes of the North American Backbone, Bob Klahn is *not* the moderator   
   of record for ALL-POLITICS, he would be for ALL_POLITICS, should he make a   
   formal request for the backbone to transport it. However I would hope he would   
   spare people the confusion by not doing so, being that he has since retooled   
   another echo (CONTROVERIAL) to do for him what he was using ALL-POLITICS for.   
   It was a pain in the ass when we had identical sets of echoes for MACS with a   
   hypen and a underscore were the only distinction other than one tin pot   
   moderator was replaced by another.   
      
   Furthermore Klahn had been making the case that "well you recognized me as   
   moderator for x months".... BULLSHIT defense.. If a person put on the uniform   
   of a beat cop on main street and seemingly performed the duties of one and had   
   all the store owners convinced, when the deception is discovered, that doesnt   
   make the impersonator a real cop because everyone initially believed him to be   
   one.   
      
   Now do I believe Klahn set out to deliberately deceive, probably not, but the   
   lack of follow-up on his part, is in fact his own failing and said failure   
   cannot be assigned to someone else..   
      
   With the repurposing of another echo, it would seem that Klahn has resolved   
   the issue and dealt with any future technicalities.   
      
   He only wanted an echo to get the last word in on messages originating from   
   areas he and perhaps others are banned from. A highly suspect concept   
   considering that Klahn is assuming that people he would respond to will take   
   and read that echo.   
      
   With all this said...   
      
   It is entirely a moot point as to the did not/did to or he said this/he didnt   
   say this part of the argument, spilt milk, water under the bridge, and all   
   that stuff.   
      
   Everyone has until SUNDAY 01/23/11 23:59 hours to get this out of their   
   systems before it becomes off topic here, we will also know who goes to the   
   super bowl by that time.   
      
   ==   
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