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   -=> Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-   
      
    RH> don't want to cut back now when I need the help. I'm still on O2 just   
    RH> at night.   
      
    DD> Be happy you don't need oxygen constantly. The medical supply picked   
    DD> up my portables - so now, if I want to go out and about I have to   
    DD> wrestle a cylinder of oxygen on a tow along cart into the car, keep it   
    DD> from flopping around whilst I'm drivifg - and the haul it behind me   
    DD> where I go.   
      
    RH> Not fun. One of our vet friends was on just the portable when he was   
    RH> out tanks when we first moved to WF. Now he's on the big cylinders,   
    RH> going thru several a day and dragging one whenever he goes out. Had to   
    RH> give up some of his charity photography work because he couldn't shoot   
    RH> pictures and juggle the cylinder at the same time.   
      
   The portables, AFAIK, only go to 6 litres per minute output. My home unit   
   goes to 10 LPM. When you say "big" cylinders - do you mean the welding )2   
   cylinders? Or the 4' tall, 6" diameter more easily portable units. The   
   problem with either is the finite supply of oxygen.   
      
    RH> Late 2015 we bought a 2016 Escape. Spring of 2016 we had a storm with   
    RH> hail, did a number on the vehicle but insurance covered a restoration   
    RH> job. Had a not so nice encounter with wind, snow and ice in Wyoming   
    RH> that December, car was repaired but we'd bought the Frontier to get us   
    RH> home, liked it better so the Escape was sold.   
      
    DD> Don't recall meeting your Escape. I do remember the Nissan. I'd like   
      
    RH> We had the 2009 Escape from 2009 to 2015 but it didn't have the towing   
    RH> "oomph" needed for the R-Pod so traded it for the 2016 model in late   
    RH> 2015. That's the one that had the wrong encounter with the ice, wind,   
    RH> etc in Wyoming, in December, 2016. We came home from that trip in the   
    RH> Frontier.   
      
   And probably liked it better. Nissan certainly did their ergonomics right.   
   The first time I drove a Frontier all of the controls and knobs were right   
   whre my hand expected them to be. No learning curve  Bv)=   
      
    DD> to find one similar for my own use. But the price of cars and pickups   
    DD> as gotten obscene. I located one very similar to a unit I had priced   
    DD> as a "new" purchase. This on had 87K miles on it and was priced ar   
    DD> just $29,000 - which blew me away. The new unit I had priced was only   
    DD> $21,000 delicered inclusive of taxes, tile license and insurance. Go   
    DD> figure.   
      
    RH> Cheaper to buy the new. We needed something with more tow power when we   
    RH> bought the new camper in 2023 so traded the Frontier in on a 2018 F-150   
    RH> and have been happy with it. Had to kick it into 4 wheel drive the   
    RH> other day going over a mountain pass (on a dirt road) near Monument   
    RH> Valley the other day.   
      
   Except the current pricing has inflated right along with the size of the   
   truck. A Frontier or Toyota Tacoma is the size that 3/4 ton pickups used   
   to be just a few years ago. A current "entry level" Niswsan Frontier will   
   set on back U$32K (up to U$45K). Too rich for my blood.   
      
    DD>       Title: Party Pick-Up Chicken Livers   
    DD>  Categories: Appetisers, Poultry, Offal, Breads, Condiments   
    DD>       Yield: 24 Appetisers   
      
    RH> Easy do, just make sure you label it as livers. Our girls are not fond   
    RH> of it and have never fixed it for their families but older daughter   
    RH> bought some chicken/duck pate the other day for a light buffet meal.   
    RH> Turned out her family didn't care for it but she liked it. My favorite   
    RH> way to fix liver was with onions, bell peppers and mushrooms in an   
    RH> Italian seasoned tomato sauce, served over rice sprinkled with parmesan   
    RH> cheese.   
      
   My favourite way to fix chicken livers is battered/breaded and deep-fried.   
   Second favourite is in a nice gravy over mashed taters.   
      
   MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06   
       
         Title: Giblet Gravy (For Poultry)   
    Categories: Poultry, Offal, Sauces   
         Yield: 8 Servings   
       
         1    Liver   
         1    Gizzard   
         1    Heart   
              Water   
         4 tb Reserved fat   
         3 tb Flour   
              Salt & pepper   
       
     My (author's) notes: This is the way I've always made   
     giblet gravy, except that I add chopped celery and onion,   
     the neck, and some poultry seasoning, salt, and pepper   
     while boiling the giblets. I usually add a little Kitchen   
     Bouquet at the end to brown the gravy, also.   
        
     UDD's Notes: Lose the Kitchen Bouquet. If you want to add   
     colour to the gravy cook the roux a bit longer. The added   
     poultry seasoning is highly optional and if used should   
     be used sparingly.   
        
     Wash thoroughly the liver, gizzard and heart and cover   
     with water and cook until tender. Drain off the water   
     and save. Chop the giblets fine. Pour off most of the   
     fat in which the poultry has been cooked, leaving about   
     4 Tbsp of it in the pan. Add 3 Tbsp of flour and blend   
     well. Measure the giblet water adding enough water to   
     make 3 cups. Pour slowly into the browned flour,   
     stirring constantly until mixture thickens.   
        
     Add giblets and cook for a few minutes.   
        
     Season with salt and pepper and serve.   
        
     Source: Pennsylvania Dutch Cook Book - Fine Old Recipes;   
     :       Culinary Arts Press, 1936.   
        
     From: http://www.recipesource.com   
        
     Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen   
       
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