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   Hi Dave,   
      
      
    DD> Saccharine is about the only one f the "artificial" sweetners I avoid.   
    DD> cancer in lab rats. As near as I could figure an average-sized humern   
    DD> bean would have to drink the equivalent of a barrel (55 gallons) of it   
    DD> in a 24 hour period to equal the overdoses fed to the poor lab   
      
    RH> I remember reading something along those lines years ago. AFAIK, I've   
    RH> never bought anything with saccharine in it but may have unknowingly   
    RH> consumed it when I was younger. I do recall my folks keeping a bottle   
    RH> of the liquified version in their fridge for years, for the occaisional   
    RH> times they drank iced tea.   
      
    DD> I was introduced to it by my Grandmother. Little teeny-tiny white   
    DD> pills (asbout 2 mg IIEC) and one could oversweeten a quart of iced   
    DD> tea.   
      
   It was in just about anything that was "diet" or "low Calorie" for a   
   long time--until scientists got ahold of it and fed it to a lot of lab   
   rats. I think it was the only "artificial sweetener" around, so it was   
   very common for common folks to use.   
      
    DD>      8<----- HACK ----->8   
      
    DD> Oh, I forgot. Ocean Spray has a version that has "FREE" in big caps ob   
    DD> the label. That's what I stock.   
      
    RH> We rarely buy fruit juices, drinking more water than anything else.   
    RH> Some of the water is the flavored, sparkling stuff, with some real   
    RH> fruit juice but a very small amount. We do have a couple jugs each of   
    RH> white grape juice and apple juice left over from our anniversary   
    RH> celebration. We'll probably cut them with plain sparkling water so as   
    RH> not to get a big carb hit. Did that with the fig syrup I made this   
    RH> summer, fig soda tastes pretty good. (G)   
      
    DD> I do tomato juice and the cranberry juice - which my nephrologist   
    DD> (kidney doc) recommended as being good in several ways for my kidney   
      
   So far my kidneys seem to be doing well without cranberry juice. Had a   
   scare a few years ago with some blood work that indicated maybe   
   otherwise so my primary care dr. referred me to a nephrologist. He said   
   all was well, just come back once a year to keep an eye on things. Last   
   time I saw him, he suggested drinking more water (or whatever) to stay   
   better hydrated; this was not too long after our most recent long cross   
   country trip.   
      
    DD> functions - and lemon juice to add to the water I drink. If I do drink   
    DD> soda it'd as an accompaniment to a meal. Just for drinking, once I'm   
    DD> done with my half- pot of coffee it's water w/lemon for the rest of   
    DD> the day.   
      
   Soda is generally only with meals, unless I really need hydration and   
   water isn't reasonably available. Otherwise it's water, flavored or   
   otherwise--at lunch (out) today it was with 2 slices of lemon.   
      
      
    RH>  on. I tried RH> to suggest some better subs for things but she   
    RH> resisted   
    RH>  change. RH> Probably some of that was dementia starting to kick in but   
    RH>  she was RH> diagnosed diabeticc several years before that. Don't know   
    RH>  what her A1Cs RH> ran but morning b/g checks ran in the 140s. Dr. just   
    RH>  had her on RH> metformin.   
      
    DD> Another thing that I do routinely is to use honey as a sweetner.   
    DD> Especially in tea - hot or iced. It even makes the oil of bergamot in   
    DD> Earl Gray tea almost palatable.  Bv)=   
      
    RH> We use that, sorgum and molasses. Any sugar I buy is brown, powdered,   
    RH> raw or turbinado; main use of the latter two is in making jam or   
    RH> preserves (which I eat very little of).   
      
    DD> Not even on your PB&J sandwiches?     
      
   Not even those. (G)   
      
      
    DD>       Title: Apple Rice Pudding   
    DD>  Categories: Diabetic, Desserts, Rice, Fruits   
    DD>       Yield: 6 Servings   
      
    RH> Hmm, looks interesting. I use brown rice, jasmine rice or a rice blend   
    RH> (put out by Lundberg). The brown would work the best all around of the   
    RH> 3, jasmine and blend is for when I cook Asian or just want a different   
    RH> side.   
      
    DD> My default rice is bassmati (or Texmati). No special reason for it -   
    DD> just fell into its use after buting a BIG (30#) bag at a Big Lots   
    DD> store. Realised when I got it home that's a LOT of rice. Especially   
    DD> for a single guy cooking mostly for himself.   
      
   It freezes well, both raw and cooked. I've got some in the freezer I   
   need to pull out this week and use, maybe in chicken soup now that the   
   weather has cooled down. Also have to pull out some pumpkin next week to   
   make a pumpkin roll for Steve's birthday.   
      
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   Catch you later,   
   Ruth   
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