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   -=> Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-   
      
    DD> Saccharine is about the only one f the "artificial" sweetners I avoid.   
    DD> And that's only because of its bitter after-taste. Even seeing the   
    DD> published link between saccharie and cancer didn't put me off of it.   
    DD> But thst bitter component sure did. I ran the numbers to get behind   
    DD> the sensationalist lead ins to the "scientific claim" of causing   
    DD> cancer in lab rats. As near as I could figure an average-sized humern   
    DD> bean would have to drink the equivalent of a barrel (55 gallons) of it   
    DD> in a 24 hour period to equal the overdoses fed to the poor lab   
    DD> animals.   
      
    RH> I remember reading something along those lines years ago. AFAIK, I've   
    RH> never bought anything with saccharine in it but may have unknowingly   
    RH> consumed it when I was younger. I do recall my folks keeping a bottle   
    RH> of the liquified version in their fridge for years, for the occaisional   
    RH> times they drank iced tea.   
      
   I was introduced to it by my Grandmother. Little teeny-tiny white pills   
   (asbout 2 mg IIEC) and one could oversweeten a quart of iced tea.   
      
    DD>      8<----- HACK ----->8   
      
    DD> Oh, I forgot. Ocean Spray has a version that has "FREE" in big caps ob   
    DD> the label. That's what I stock.   
      
    RH> We rarely buy fruit juices, drinking more water than anything else.   
    RH> Some of the water is the flavored, sparkling stuff, with some real   
    RH> fruit juice but a very small amount. We do have a couple jugs each of   
    RH> white grape juice and apple juice left over from our anniversary   
    RH> celebration. We'll probably cut them with plain sparkling water so as   
    RH> not to get a big carb hit. Did that with the fig syrup I made this   
    RH> summer, fig soda tastes pretty good. (G)   
      
   I do tomato juice and the cranberry juice - which my nephrologist (kidney    
   doc) recommended as being good in several ways for my kidney functions -   
   and lemon juice to add to the water I drink. If I do drink soda it'd as   
   an accompaniment to a meal. Just for drinking, once I'm done with my half-   
   pot of coffee it's water w/lemon for the rest of the day.   
      
    RH> My mom, when she was diagnosed diabetic, cut out putting sugar on   
    RH>  her RH> cereal. She subbed out probably a couple/3 tablespoons of   
    RH>  raisins RH> instead, probably more carbs than the sugar she used to   
    RH> put   
    RH>  on. I tried RH> to suggest some better subs for things but she   
    RH> resisted   
    RH>  change. RH> Probably some of that was dementia starting to kick in but   
    RH>  she was RH> diagnosed diabeticc several years before that. Don't know   
    RH>  what her A1Cs RH> ran but morning b/g checks ran in the 140s. Dr. just   
    RH>  had her on RH> metformin.   
      
    DD> Another thing that I do routinely is to use honey as a sweetner.   
    DD> Especially in tea - hot or iced. It even makes the oil of bergamot in   
    DD> Earl Gray tea almost palatable.  Bv)=   
      
    RH> We use that, sorgum and molasses. Any sugar I buy is brown, powdered,   
    RH> raw or turbinado; main use of the latter two is in making jam or   
    RH> preserves (which I eat very little of).   
      
   Not even on your PB&J sandwiches?      
      
    DD>       Title: Apple Rice Pudding   
    DD>  Categories: Diabetic, Desserts, Rice, Fruits   
    DD>       Yield: 6 Servings   
      
    RH> Hmm, looks interesting. I use brown rice, jasmine rice or a rice blend   
    RH> (put out by Lundberg). The brown would work the best all around of the   
    RH> 3, jasmine and blend is for when I cook Asian or just want a different   
    RH> side.   
      
   My default rice is bassmati (or Texmati). No special reason for it - just fell   
   into its use after buting a BIG (30#) bag at a Big Lots store. Realised when I   
   got it home that's a LOT of rice. Especially for a single guy cooking mostly   
   for himself.    
      
   MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06   
       
         Title: Dave's Stuffed Pepper Soup   
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Rice, Herbs   
         Yield: 6 Servings   
       
         1 lb Coarse ground chuck   
         2 lg (to 4) bell peppers; any   
              - colour, cored, chopped   
         1 c  Fine diced onion   
        29 oz (2 cans) Red Gold Petite   
              - diced tomatoes (w/chilies   
              - or plain)   
        15 oz Can Red Gold tomato sauce   
        14 oz Can Beef broth   
       1/4 ts Dried thyme   
       1/4 ts Dried sage   
              Salt & pepper   
         1 c  White or Basmati rice   
       
     In a large stock pot brown ground meat. Add pepper   
     and onion. Cook until onions are translucent, not   
     letting them brown.   
        
     Add tomatoes, tomato sauce, broth, thyme, sage and   
     season with salt and pepper. Cover and simmer for 30   
     to 45 minutes, until peppers are tender.   
        
     In another saucepan boil 2 cups water, and add rice.   
     Cook until rice is tender and then add to soup. Heat   
     soup through and serve.   
        
     Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen   
       
   MMMMM   
      
   An aside about the tomatoes used in this recipe. I have "called out" thr   
   Red Gold brand .... mostly because they are simply the best tasting and   
   highest quality "supermarket" tomatoes I have ever experienced. Including   
   the hoity-toity "organic" and/or specialiry brands like Muir Glen or Annies.   
      
   https://www.redgoldtomatoes.com/  They're a family owned/run company not yet   
   ruined by the bean counters. They also have two other labels - Red Pack which   
   is their food service label and Tuttorosso "the best-selling Italian inspired    
   canned tomatoes in the United States."   
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