EC> Not mistaken by much.  Some of it was Klahn, other parts   
    EC> Lofaso.   
      
    EC> Roger had listed the echo in January.  The listing expired   
    EC> on August 1. The new echolist came out August 5.  At around   
    EC> this time, someone in a different echo commented that they   
    EC> hadn't seen Lofaso post anything in a while, and wondered   
    EC> what happened to him.  Someone else mentioned that he was   
    EC> still posting in COFFEE_KLATSCH.   
      
    EC> After the new echolist came out, showing the listing   
    EC> deleted, Klahn started posting that the echo needed a   
    EC> moderator.   
      
    Error on his part. Started posting *AGAIN* that the echo needed   
    a moderator. I had posted that before Roger listed it, and my   
    posting was why Roger listed it.   
      
    EC> Lofaso almost immediately listed the echo in   
    EC> his name.  He gave it back to Roger nine days later, in   
    EC> response to the weight of public opinion.  As I recall, he   
      
    Note that Earl admits the echo was unlisted.   
      
    EC> even tried to negotiate CONDITIONS with Roger for the   
    EC> return of the echo, but when that didn't work he just gave   
    EC> in.   
      
    How croasmun would know that is questionable.   
      
    EC> I don't think having a moderator affected the echo.  It was   
    EC> active from January to July of that year, with Roger as   
    EC> moderator.  It was the unpleasantness in August that may   
    EC> have affected the tone of the echo. Klahn and Lofaso were   
    EC> posting about "nasties coming."   
      
    Posting again. The Nasties were the reason I recommended a   
    moderator originally. Then, when someone mentioned that Lee was   
    in coffee_klatch I posted the warning again. I was right, the   
    Natties showed up. But they left when they discovered it was a   
    no-flame echo.   
      
    EC> Lofaso listed the echo.   
    EC> Several people expressed their displeasure with what Klahn   
    EC> and Lofaso had said and done, sometimes in very blunt   
    EC> language.  The two of them introduced nastiness into a   
    EC> previously happy echo.   
      
    Funny, not one single person mentioned either of us as their   
    reason for leaving the echo. No one had a problem before August   
    because Roger did not announce that he had listed the echo, and   
    he did zero moderating.   
      
    OTOH, several people cited the Nasties as the reason they left   
    the echo, and at least one cited Roger as the reason.   
      
    If Roger had said he had listed the echo none of that would have   
    happened.   
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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