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   BOB KLAHN to ALL   
   More Big Hollywood lies.   
   24 Jan 11 20:06:12   
   
    Do you ever check the original source?   
      
    TR> Big Hollywood  Blog Archive  If Black People Own Guns and   
    TR> Michael Moore Says Gun Owners are Racists.....?   
      
    TR> by Steven Crowder   
      
    ...   
      
    TR> simple. In a recent interview with MSNBC's Richard Maddow,   
    TR> Michael Moore stated that people own guns because they are   
    TR> racist. He prefaced his comments with this:   
      
    This is such a gross distortion as to qualify as a lie.   
      
    ...   
      
    TR> Rather than see the absurdity in answering his own   
    TR> question, Michael Moore went on to explain that the only   
    TR> reason Americans own guns is due to their racist fear of   
    TR> black people breaking into their homes: "That imaginary   
    TR> person that's going to break into your home and kill you.   
    TR> Who does that man look like? You know, it's not   
    TR> freckle-faced Jimmy down the street is it?"   
      
    What Moore really said was, the homebreaker is poor or   
    non-white. He said there is a *CLASS* and racial aspect to the   
    fear. He emphasized the poor as a source of fear. Oh, and the   
    word "class" was actually in his statement. As was "the poor",   
    and "people of color". Nowhere is the word black.   
      
    Many places in this country the feared minority is hispanic. In   
    some places it's Native American or even Asian. Yes, there are   
    Asian gangs. And there are white gangs, though they are probably   
    making more money off drugs. Just my guess.   
      
    TR> Of course, Michael Moore and Maddow then went on to cite   
    TR> the fallacy that a gun owner is more likely to be disarmed   
    TR> and have their gun used against them in a self-defense   
    TR> situation.  No facts or logic need apply. They sort of hop-   
      
    Again he lies. Maddow did not say any part of that, and Moore   
    said in about 1/3rd or so, note not an exact figure, the   
    victim is killed with a weapon the criminal *found* or took   
    away from the homeowner. The 1/3rd was his aproximation.   
      
    Not more likely, but 1/3rd of the time. Far under 50%.   
      
    TR> scotched the actual research in order to get to the part   
    TR> where they call all of the middle-American gun-owners   
    TR> nothing more than racists.   
      
    And that is far enough out to call a lie. He said the fear of   
    homebreakers is largely due to fear of class and race. The poor   
    and the non-white.   
      
    Note also, it's handguns that he is talking about. He is not   
    talking about hunting rifles. Not even assault weapons in this   
    case.   
      
    TR> Let me be the first to say, that I own a gun. I've never   
    TR> thought myself to be a racist but maybe today, Maddow and   
    TR> Moore have proven me wrong. Perhaps they've proven us all   
    TR> wrong.   
      
    No, he's just an elitist who thinks poor people are out to get   
    him. Maybe because he deserves it.   
      
    TR> What say you, other gun owners out there? Do you own guns   
    TR> simply because you're filthy racists?   
      
    And do you listen to liars like Stephen Crowder.   
      
    TR> Moore and Maddow are betting you do.   
      
    Moore and Maddow are hoping you don't.   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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