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|    BOB KLAHN to ALL    |
|    Motives for attacks on Iran.    |
|    17 Jan 11 22:05:42    |
       Anybody notice who wants us to attack Iran?               Israel, yes, but also Saudi Arabia and other nearby Arab Sunni        states. They claim it's because they fear Iran with a nuclear        weapon. Yet it was the Saudis who financed Iraq's Nuke program        back when they did have one.               The Sunni states have long hated Iran, because it's a Shia        state. Al Qaeda hates Iran probably more than they hate us.               The all want us to take down Iran. And why would anyone believe        it's for any reason other than they want the Shia beaten down?               Also, remember, Iran is a democracy. It's heading for        dictatorship as things are going, and that may well be why the        current leadership want to provoke the US. They believe they can        withstand whatever attack the US throws at them, and lose        little. Esp if their nuke program really is peaceful. They don't        lose a weapons program they don't have, the US comes out of it        looking like ****, and probably winds up having to pay to        rebuild the program.               In the meantime the current Iranian leaders can use the attack        as an excuse to eviserate Iranian democracy, and become full out        dictators.               OTOH, why does Israel want us fighting Iran? Fear of an Iranian        nuke? Isreal has maybe a hundred. If Iran attacked Isreal with        their one or two nukes there would be no Iran left at the end of        the day. And the Iranians know that. They may be described as        fanatics, but they aren't suicidal. Notice that the suicide        bombers have been Sunni, esp Wahabi.               So why want us to attack? How about, we are already bleeding        from two wars. Iran is a much tougher target than either of the        others were. An attack on Iran might trigger something so        draining either the US will back off completely and disengage        from the region, or let Israel do all the work in the first        place.               And why would Israel want the US out militarily, but still        subsidizing them? Well, Israel is described as David facing        Goliath, but, in reality, Isreal is the Middle Eastern Goliath,        and the Arab states cannot stand against her. Back before the        1967 war Isreal painted their situation as desperate and asked        for more military aid. LBJ asked the CIA for their evaluation.               The CIA reported back that Isreal will launch the first attack,        and win. They said no Arab alliance could stand against Israel.        And they were right on all points. It's still that way.               So with the US out of the way, and free rein to attack at will,        Israel could beat down the one country the rest of the Arabs        fear, and dominate the Middle East.               Everybody wins except us. Oh and the Sunni nations, but who        cares about them?               Problem is, Israel can't use their nukes, the US would not        accept that. And they might well be biting off more than they        can chew. Israel can beat any of them in an open war, but in a        war of economic and political attrician they may be weaker than        they realize.               Once Iran gets the focus of the press, they can also point out        that they supported us in the invasion of Afghanistan, and the        democratization of Iraq. The only Middle Eastern Muslim nation        to do so. Which puts us in an even worse light.               So, just how do we win with this?               And Israel has shown in the past they can sacrifice American        interests for their own. Or, for that matter, anyone elses.               Shouldn't we rethink this whole matter?                            BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... "Nemo exspectat Inquisitionem Hispanicam!" --Montius Pythonius       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)    |
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