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   BOB KLAHN to ALL   
   Motives for attacks on Iran.   
   17 Jan 11 22:05:42   
   
    Anybody notice who wants us to attack Iran?   
      
    Israel, yes, but also Saudi Arabia and other nearby Arab Sunni   
    states. They claim it's because they fear Iran with a nuclear   
    weapon. Yet it was the Saudis who financed Iraq's Nuke program   
    back when they did have one.   
      
    The Sunni states have long hated Iran, because it's a Shia   
    state. Al Qaeda hates Iran probably more than they hate us.   
      
    The all want us to take down Iran. And why would anyone believe   
    it's for any reason other than they want the Shia beaten down?   
      
    Also, remember, Iran is a democracy. It's heading for   
    dictatorship as things are going, and that may well be why the   
    current leadership want to provoke the US. They believe they can   
    withstand whatever attack the US throws at them, and lose   
    little. Esp if their nuke program really is peaceful. They don't   
    lose a weapons program they don't have, the US comes out of it   
    looking like ****, and probably winds up having to pay to   
    rebuild the program.   
      
    In the meantime the current Iranian leaders can use the attack   
    as an excuse to eviserate Iranian democracy, and become full out   
    dictators.   
      
    OTOH, why does Israel want us fighting Iran? Fear of an Iranian   
    nuke? Isreal has maybe a hundred. If Iran attacked Isreal with   
    their one or two nukes there would be no Iran left at the end of   
    the day. And the Iranians know that. They may be described as   
    fanatics, but they aren't suicidal. Notice that the suicide   
    bombers have been Sunni, esp Wahabi.   
      
    So why want us to attack? How about, we are already bleeding   
    from two wars. Iran is a much tougher target than either of the   
    others were. An attack on Iran might trigger something so   
    draining either the US will back off completely and disengage   
    from the region, or let Israel do all the work in the first   
    place.   
      
    And why would Israel want the US out militarily, but still   
    subsidizing them? Well, Israel is described as David facing   
    Goliath, but, in reality, Isreal is the Middle Eastern Goliath,   
    and the Arab states cannot stand against her. Back before the   
    1967 war Isreal painted their situation as desperate and asked   
    for more military aid. LBJ asked the CIA for their evaluation.   
      
    The CIA reported back that Isreal will launch the first attack,   
    and win. They said no Arab alliance could stand against Israel.   
    And they were right on all points. It's still that way.   
      
    So with the US out of the way, and free rein to attack at will,   
    Israel could beat down the one country the rest of the Arabs   
    fear, and dominate the Middle East.   
      
    Everybody wins except us. Oh and the Sunni nations, but who   
    cares about them?   
      
    Problem is, Israel can't use their nukes, the US would not   
    accept that. And they might well be biting off more than they   
    can chew. Israel can beat any of them in an open war, but in a   
    war of economic and political attrician they may be weaker than   
    they realize.   
      
    Once Iran gets the focus of the press, they can also point out   
    that they supported us in the invasion of Afghanistan, and the   
    democratization of Iraq. The only Middle Eastern Muslim nation   
    to do so. Which puts us in an even worse light.   
      
    So, just how do we win with this?   
      
    And Israel has shown in the past they can sacrifice American   
    interests for their own. Or, for that matter, anyone elses.   
      
    Shouldn't we rethink this whole matter?   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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