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|    BOB KLAHN to ALL    |
|    The economy from a Catholic Viewpoint pa    |
|    27 Jul 11 15:59:10    |
       **               *Talking About Taxes*               By Fred Rotondaro, Chairman, Catholics in Alliance for the        Common Good               There are very silly things, and a few smart things, being said        about taxes these days.               Take Grover Norquist for instance. Mr Norquist has been chair of        Americans for Tax Reform since 1986 and has generally operated        in semi-obscurity. He's been all over the airwaves recently and        even penned an op-ed for the New York Times. Norquist's topic?        Taxes and why he's against them. He has a pledge signed by 276        of 289 Republicans members of Congress saying they will never        vote for a tax increase. Mr. Norquist interprets the pledge as        including the preservation of billions of dollars in tax        subsidies to corporations. Taking the subsidies away, he says,        counts as a tax increase and he won't let any Republican do        that. If they do, they may well find themselves facing a well        financed primary opponent.               Where does Norquist's power - and his funding - come from? He        won't say. Anybody want to take my bet that it comes from large        corporations who use Norquist as an enforcer to keep their taxes        low and their subsidies high? Al Capone take notice.               Now Republican spokesmen, whether it's John Boehner or the        twenty-something attractive blonde billed as a Republican        strategist, don't really want to get into the role played by        Norquist and his corporate sponsors. So they've developed other        language about taxes. "You can't tax the job creators during a        recession," they robotically repeat. They say this time and time        again despite the simple fact that after George Bush's three tax        cuts, there was no upsurge in employment, the country had the        greatest recession since 1929, and we still have 15 million        unemployed. And the Republicans in Congress never seem to        explain though why it's ok to take trillions away from the poor        and middle class during a recession.               Those job creators really better shape up. They have most of        the wealth in the country: the top 1 percent of America's        wealthiest citizens has more assets than the bottom 90 percent.        And a mere 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all        Americans. So, where are the jobs? In other countries, that's        where. But they're not here. In fact, the super job creator,        George W. Bush, created fewer jobs per years in office than any        other president since Herbert Hoover.               Think Progress, a unit of the liberal Center for American        Progress--disclosure, I am a senior fellow at CAP-- recently        had some things to say about taxes. They did some comparative        studies. A few of their conclusions: The tax burden on the        American upper class is lower than most other countries. Ditto        for American corporations. The top tax rate is nominally 35        percent but the majority of billionaires don't pay anywhere near        that amount because much of their money is invested and they pay        only a capital gains rate of 15 percent.               Warren Buffet, a few years ago, in arguing for tax reform,        pointed out that he paid a lower tax rate than his secretary.        And if you're a hedge fund manager, all of your income is        classified as capital gains, even though you do not have to        invest any capital to make a bonus and the bonus is simply a        reward for work, that is, it is a wage. By the way, the top 25        hedge managers averaged $1 billion in income each in 2008.               Robert Shiller, the legendary Yale professor of economics, also        had some recent comments on taxes. He believes we "need tax        increases matched by higher expenditures on public goods." The        government should act as "a type of banker," he says, using        public monies for projects for the public good. Higher taxes        could provide monies for projects that make a stronger America.        What a novel idea. Don't you wish FDR had thought of it? Oops.        FDR did think of it, and got America out of the Great        Depression.               Shiller reminds me of my favorite commentator on taxes --        Thomas Paine. Writing in 1782 as the Revolutionary War was        coming to an end, Paine wrote about the necessity of taxes.        "When America resolved on independence, and determined to be        free, she naturally included within that resolution all the        means, whether of men or money, to affect it." Put simply, the        great Revolutionary was saying: All right men, you wanted        freedom. Now pay up.               To the Tea Party and to the Republican Leadership, I echo Paine.        Together, we share America. We want her to be, as always, the        greatest nation in world history. We cannot do that with your        foolish and shallow notions about taxation. We cannot do that if        you attempt to destroy the economic security guaranteed to all        Americans. We cannot do that if you compromise our future        because of your subservience to special interests instead of        loyalty to the nation. When America is in stress, Paine wrote,        "I shall treat taxation as a popular good. I hold taxation,        which is to be applied to her own defense and her own good, one        of the lightest of her difficulties, when considered with this        which were occasioned by the want of it."               Mr. Paine, may I introduce Mr. Boehner.               ----------------------------------------------------------------               Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good is a lay Catholic        organization that promotes public policies and effective        programs that enhance the inherent dignity of all, especially        the poor and most vulnerable. Our work is inspired by Gospel        values and the rich history of Catholic social teaching as they        inform pressing moral issues of our time. We accomplish these        goals through public policy analysis and advocacy, strategic        media outreach, and engaging citizens in the service of the        common good.               http://www.catholicsinalliance.org                     BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... True Christianity-If anyone anywhere is hungry, it's your fault.       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)    |
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