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|    BOB KLAHN to ALL    |
|    Is Israel becomming a failed state?    |
|    10 Jul 11 16:35:04    |
       Isreal is all of what American conservatives dispise, and only        one thing conservatives like.               Isreal is a religious state, which conservatives like, but the        wrong religion for American conservatives. Many on the religious        right in this country support Israel because they believe the        support of Isreal will lead to the end of the Jewish faith.               In the end times, which the religious right is hoping for, and        the re-establishment if Israel is supposed to preceed, the Jew        are supposed to convert or die.               Nice when your supporters are hoping for the end of what you        believe in, isn't it?               Israel is also heavily socialist, involved in social        engineering, and universal health care. Isreal is also very        multicultural. All of which the right in America dispises. Oh,        and they are big on immigration, but the right accepts that        since they are trying to consolidate all the world's Jews in one        place.               Israel is also a democracy, but that is in the balance in the        current events. How democratic a nation is when the military is        embedded in almost all of national life is arguable. How long it        can continue as a democracy when the press is allegedly free,        but subject to military censorship, is truely questionable.               Which leads to the title question, is Israel becomming a failed        state, and if so, just why and what are the indicators.               What are the indicators of a failed state? Dependence on        international aid? Expansion of poverty? Widespread crime,        extending into the government? Oppressive government?               Those who pay attention to Israeli news, from Israeli sources,        may be aware that poverty is a problem in Israel. Now that is        not supposed to be, as Israel offers so much to immigrants.        However, having listened to The Voice of Israel (Kol Israel) for        years, and reading online Israeli newspapers, it comes out that        poverty is a continuing problem in Israel. Which is not really        suprising in a country that has focused on it's military for all        of it's existance.               Clearly Israel is dependent on foreign assistance for it's very        survival. The US provides Israel with more foreign aid than it        does to any other country. Much of that is military aid, if not        most. However, if the US did not provide that aid then Israel        would have to divert more of it's economy to make that up.               To those who pay attention crime in Israel is pretty well known,        but even a short search turns up more than I knew before.        Organized crime in Israel is well established, but has grown        drastically since the fall of the Soviet Union. In the last        decade such crime has reached to the level of cabinet ministers,        and assignation attempts between gangs. At least one bombing in        Isreal was originally believed to be of Palestinian origin, but        proved out to be an attempt to kill a gang leader by a rival        gang. The attacks have included anti-tank rockets and bombs.               Israeli organized crime is inherently international, due to the        ease of travel. The surge of immigration from Eastern Europe        after the fall of the Soviet Union included many criminals, and        world wide immigration to Israel opens up outward travel by        those holding passports from other countries. Israeli crime        families have tentacles into Eastern and Western Europe, and the        United States.               International criminal activity by Israeli mobs include drug        dealing especially, but also money laundering, gambling,        trafficing in women, and murder which goes with all the above.               One possible reason for the extent of Israeli infiltration of        international organized crime is the restrictive Israeli        extradition laws. While Israel can extradite Jews to other        countries for trial, that is only allowed if the accused will be        sent to Israel to serve any sentence. Israeli prisons are more        'humane', or soft if you prefer, than many other countries,        including the US. One of the Israeli organized crime figures        murdered in the feuds had escaped from prison by the simple        expedient of walking away from a weekend pass, and moving to        England, where he was killed.               In January of this year Israel shipped 5 accused crime figures        to the US for trial, but, if convicted, they will be sent back        to Israel to serve their sentences. Those men, described by an        Israeli police spokesman as the "Lords of Organized Crime", were        wanted for murder, drug dealing, money laundering and possible        RICO prosecution.               Yet all of this, while indicating a breakdown in Israeli        society, do not necessarily indicate a failing state. What may,        though, it how many citizens want to, or are preparing to, leave        the country.               Recently I discovered that emigration is a problem for Israel,        but the potential for more immigration is huge. Aproximately 50%        of Israeli youth said they would rather live somewhere else if        it were possible, in a survey on the subject. Over 60% of        Israelis either already hold foreign passports, or have applied        for them, and indicated they are considering leaving. Around        3/4 million Israelis either have US passports or have applied        for them.               There has long been a worry that Islamic reproduction exceeds        Jewish reproduction to such an extent that Israel may no longer        be a Jewish state. An unmentioned addition to this concern is        the emigration/immigration imbalance in Israel. Israelis who        leave the country typically do not return. They are twice as        likely to be college educated as the average Israeli, and, more        important, they are young.               The immigrants to Israel tend to be older, the emmegrants tend        to be younger. The immigrants are much less likely to have        children than the emmigrants. That too will add to the        reproduction imbalance.               All in all, if over half the population of a country are        considering leaving, and half the youth have said they would        prefer to leave, that just might suggest the nation is on it's        way to being a failed state.                            BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... All the ills of democracy can be cured by more democracy.       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)    |
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