Hello Bob,   
      
   On Sun 2039-Apr-17 05:34, BOB KLAHN (1:123/140) wrote to ALL:   
      
      
      
   BK>  The earliest known New Testament piece is a fragment written  about   
   BK> 150 AD or CE whichever you prefer. That would be about 120  years   
   BK> after his death, and resurection as Christians hold. It is    
   BK> certainly not original to anyone who knew Jesus, and it's   
   BK>  actually impossible to know if it is a copy from someone who  knew   
   BK> Jesus. This is especially true since there is no historical  record   
   BK> that Jesus existed.   
      
   I cannot recall the title, but about 8 years ago I read a   
   book by a rabinical scholar who learned ARamaic (the   
   language spoken by JEsus et al) to be able to translate the   
   dead sea scrolls.   
   IN it, he states that of the four gospels JOhn's was the   
   latest, as JOhn was the one farhtest removed from the life   
   of JEsus of course, figures parallel to those you cited were given as well.   
      
   BK>  In looking this up I was surprised to find that forgeries were    
   BK> already common by 160 AD/CE.   
      
   INdeed, iirc he mentioned these as well.   
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
   --- timEd 1.10.y2k+   
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