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   Message 207 of 415   
   BOB KLAHN to JOHN HULL   
   Original Analysis   
   29 Mar 11 22:07:52   
   
    This is another old one. The actual numbers for Bush's economy,   
    what Obama inherited, was a debt to GDP ratio pushing 90%, not   
    67%, and a debt pushin $12trillion, and federal spending pushing   
    25% of GDP, not 20.7%.   
      
    ...   
      
    JH> Second, based on what they posted here over the years,   
    JH> they've not had an original thought worth discussing.  They   
    JH> have never done anything but spew what the Democrat party   
    JH> puts out as talking points.   
      
    ...   
      
    This was original material, and you couldn't answer this:   
      
    **************************************************************************   
      
    JB> The Federal budget is already at $3T per year but that   
    JB> isn't enough for liberal democrats.   
      
    Those liberal democrats managed to push down the debt load,   
    debt to GDP ratio, every year from the end of WW2 until Reagan   
    took office. That was through good economy and bad, peace and   
    war.   
      
    Your most conservative presidents since WW2 have pushed the debt   
    load back up to 67% of the GDP. They managed to wipe out decades   
    of improvement with nothing to show for it. Hell, FDR and Truman   
    managed to win a world war in 4 years. Bush can't even win a   
    'bush league' war in 7.   
      
    Republican Reagan left Bush I a budget that spent 21.2% of the   
    GDP. Republican Bush I left Clinton a budget that spent 21.4% of   
    the GDP. Democrat Clinton left Bush II a budget that spent 18.4%   
    of the GDP. Republican Bush is going to leave his successor a   
    budget that is going to spend 20.7% of the GDP.   
      
    Clinton increased federal spending by $455 bill. Bush has   
    increased federal spending by over $1.1 trillion. IOW, more than   
    2.5 times what Clinton did.   
      
    All these figures from the Bush Admin Budget History File from   
    the 2009 budget.   
      
    Next from the Statistical Abstract 2008 edition.   
      
    Clinton inherited a poverty rate of 15.1%. He left Bush a   
    poverty rate of 11.7%. The rate was 12.7% as of 2005.   
      
    The good news is, there are fewer uninsured today than just a   
    few years ago. The bad news is, they didn't get health   
    insurance, they went on medicaid. Govt insurance, Socialized   
    medicine.   
      
    Your republicans spent this country's wealth far more than those   
    "liberal" democrats.   
      
    And your latest incarnation of a republican president is   
    spending us so deep in debt it may yet bankrupt this country.   
      
    Bush has given us more socialized medicine, socialized the   
    banking failures, is socializing the Wall Street failures, and   
    will probably socialize more before he leaves Washington.   
      
    So, tell us again who wants so spend what?   
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
   ... Who are the republicans who were targeted in the domestic terror attacks?   
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